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Title: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: idolminds on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 09:36:50 PM
Well...neat? (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/100-official-xbox-360-elite-moves-from-fanboy-wet-dreams-to-reality-247636.php)

So, its black. 120GB hard drive. HDMI port and include a HDMI cable in the box. $479.99

You can get the 120GB drive for your regular white "Honkey" Xbox for $179.99.

Exciting, no?



No.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: idolminds on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 09:46:08 PM
Thought: I wonder how this is going to affect the current SKUs. Stores will not want to stock 3 types of 360. No room. Maybe they will drop the Core system. Which would kind of suck.

Seems odd. Really it would have been better to drop the 360 prices and release the larger HDD as an addon. Who cares about HDMI support? Or the color?
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: Jedi on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 09:47:33 PM
"Honkey" HAHA  ;D

Ah I wish I had waited before buying mine now... now the only reason why you'd want HDMI is for HD content and for that you'd need the HD player add on. Now what colour does that add on come in....
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: iPPi on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 09:53:53 PM
Well I mean, if you can live with 1080i, you're okay.  I mean, sure 1080p is the 'best' but 1080i is pretty damn good, and if you don't actually have a large screen to enjoy it, the use of HDMI isn't going to make a huge difference.

I'm wondering about the hard drive.  I would definitely be interested in getting the 120GB HDD for my current 360, but how would you transfer your data and stuff.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: Jedi on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 09:56:45 PM
I have in the past asked the same question, and there are ways and means but I don't remember them  :o
Would be good to know how, asll I'll probably just get the larger HDD.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 10:08:23 PM
I can't afford to even buy games for my current 360, so... yeah, I don't care about... virtually anything at this point.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 10:32:40 PM
I'm gonna be buying one soon but I'm not putting down extra money for this. I wonder though, is the 120 GB hard drive really necessary? I thought 20GB for storage is more well than enough. Do saved games honestly take a lot of space?
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: gpw11 on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 10:35:16 PM
I take it that it's for downloadable games and content.  I think they're selling movies and TV shows ala iTunes these days or in the near future.

As for the SKUs, word is that they'll only stock the three for a very limited time.  At which point the Premium gets replaced by the Elite.  Not sure what goes on with the core at that point (replaced by premium, price drop, something inbetween), but this is going on in place of an actual price drop so I imagine something will happen.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 10:53:13 PM
Damn I don't know. I don't think I'm gonna be getting Xbox Live, I mean thats really where the advantage of the system is at. Bigger hard drive for more media content, and HDMI for better quality sound and picture, but I dont think its that significant. I could take advantage of HDMI as there are converters available but that would add another 30$ to the purchase. Bah I'm just going with Premium, I like the white console better.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: scottws on Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 05:55:37 AM
Trust me Pyro, the 20GB hdd is small.  There are all kinds of demos that you can download, and each one is like a gig most of the time.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 06:20:04 AM
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Introducing Xbox 360™ Elite, the premier Xbox 360 console package that includes a massive 120GB hard drive.....

Ummm... it isn't massive.

It will initially be sold for $479 but may eventually replace the regular Xbox 360 at $399. I doubt it will happen anytime soon though, and think these will be separate products for at least two years.

The 120GB HD can be purchased separately for $179.99, which is just laughable. For that much for a PC you can get a 500GB SATA 3.0GB SATA II HD.

Also the harddrive comes with transfer cables.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 06:43:50 AM
Not only is 20 GB not enough, but it's even much worse.  What you get is 13 GB tops.  20 GB is a lie.  It's what you expect.  It's not what you get.  I just cleaned out some content because I had dropped close to 1 GB free space.  I would have preferred not to.  And there's still no way I could rent a 7-GB high-def movie.  Yeah, gpw, they're available right now.  They just don't fit anywhere.

Before considering spending that excessive wad of cash on 120 GB, I'd need to know how I would move everything from my current 13-GB drive and have it all work exactly as well as it does now.  From all the complaints I've read, once you move your profile and arcade games to another drive or system, for any reason (usually replacement of defective units), you need to be hooked to Xbox live to be able to play them.  I don't like that.  To spend big money to then get that would be stupid.  I'd want a transparent upgrade, with no loss of anything.

Well I mean, if you can live with 1080i, you're okay.  I mean, sure 1080p is the 'best' but 1080i is pretty damn good, and if you don't actually have a large screen to enjoy it, the use of HDMI isn't going to make a huge difference.

As far as I care, 720p is good enough.  The whole turmoil about HDMI does come from the resolution whores, in particular about HD DVD.  A lot of TVs don't accept 1080p input through component cables, and don't accept VGA inputs.  Even when VGA input is supported, the result is usually poor color.  The 360 outputs DTV color space through VGA, meaning not the full 256 values per primary color.  Then there's the spectre of the HDCP image constraint token, which would force analog connection of protected HD sources to be downsampled to 480p.  So here's the greatest irony: the current 360 cannot support its own HD-DVD addon.  Without HDMI, there is no guarantee that future HD movies will play at high res.  Nice?  No!
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: scottws on Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 07:12:34 AM
I just took a look at the Elite on the Xbox 360 website.  I prefer the color scheme of the original console.

Oh, and does the 360 Elite support HDCP, or just HDMI?
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 07:57:22 AM
I'd see no point in anything implementing HDMI without HDCP.  I would bet heavily that the Elite does.

I looked up the 120GB drive (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360harddrive120GB/default.htm) on the Microsoft site, and it says that it comes with "a data transfer kit to easily migrate all of your saved data from your 20GB HDD to your 120GB HDD".  Damn that price.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: scottws on Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 09:06:32 AM
Yeah that price is ridiculous.  I don't see many people buying it.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: iPPi on Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 09:21:07 AM
Ummm... it isn't massive.

It will initially be sold for $479 but may eventually replace the regular Xbox 360 at $399. I doubt it will happen anytime soon though, and think these will be separate products for at least two years.

The 120GB HD can be purchased separately for $179.99, which is just laughable. For that much for a PC you can get a 500GB SATA 3.0GB SATA II HD.

Also the harddrive comes with transfer cables.

Note that the 360 HDD uses the same formfacter HDDs as notebooks.  As a result, they are more expensive.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 Elite
Post by: scottws on Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 09:49:29 AM
Note that the 360 HDD uses the same formfacter HDDs as notebooks.  As a result, they are more expensive.
Newegg search for 120 GB notebook hard drives:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150380%20130971534%201309721216&name=120GB

Average price = $94.68