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Guild Wars: the waiting game
« on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 08:24:41 PM »
Just to try something new. I used my bros gift card from christmas and with the game on sale I paid like $5 total for it. What the hell, right?

So fat its....a download simulator. Install and goes right to downloading. Which, you know, is fine. Games get patched and it has to update itself. I'm disappointed they list how many files it has to download, how fast you are downloading, and how much (in KB) you've already downloaded. It however leaves out the most important information: how LARGE in KB the total download will be. Turns out this opening patch was 60MB. Basically the install was about 6 hours.

Cool...fine. Played some Crazy Taxi, watched disc 2 of the new Evening with Kevin Smith, which ended just as the update finished. Awesome! Lets do it!

Set up the account, create the character (ranger, female because its sexilicious) and then on to the starting area! Which...is....downloading? What the fuck did they put on the disc exactly, if not the very first fucking zone? Honestly. Thanks to no mention of filesize I have no idea how long this will take to download. 20 minutes? 4 hours? All it says is 8,000 files, which scares the shit out of me since that 6 hour install said it downloaded 4,000 files.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:12:36 PM »
Jeez.  That really blows.

Good thing your buddy Que is sending you things to do whilst you wait.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:14:34 PM »
Hooray for being me! Minus the dialup part!

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:15:25 PM »
Probably just the game textures on disc, namely.

The Guild Wars game itself and the gameworld especially is always being updated -- especially when they add news quests, new events (like for Holidays such as X-Mas aka Wintersday), new weapons, new anything really.

So, you might want to think about heavily investing in DSL or Broadband right about.....NOW. I'm surprised you didn't jump sooner to DSL or broadband, myself...

I got sick of Dial-up when I started frequently downloading patches to new games (since I began buying a lot of games more so than usual), back some 1-2 years ago -- and they started taking up like 50 MB per game, pretty much. I had enough and moved on to DSL.

Dude, check into DSL pricing....it shouldn't be too much more expensive per month, when compared to regular dial-up.

 

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:16:53 PM »
Idol has no broadband because he can't get it where he lives.  I thought like... the universe at large knew that?

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:17:40 PM »
Idol has no broadband because he can't get it where he lives.
Are you kiddin' me?!?!?!?!?

God, that sucks... :(

Idol, why can't you get broadband where you're at??? Geography issues...?

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I thought like... the whole universe knew that?
I didn't, so take the whole universe and subtract one...

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:20:53 PM »
If by "geography" you mean "lazy fucking cable company" then yes!

So...is there no way to download this shit like...out of the game? Where I can let a torrent-like program or something just sit overnight and download everything it can?

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:25:24 PM »
If by "geography" you mean "lazy fucking cable company" then yes!
That sucks....tell them to get their ass out there!

WTF is wrong w/ them??!?!?

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So...is there no way to download this shit like...out of the game? Where I can let a torrent-like program or something just sit overnight and download everything it can?
I don't think so. Pretty much, you have to boot GW to download your GW stuff. Everything comes from THEIR servers -- a la STEAM.

The game will always DL the world files and game files when you boot/go to an area, but I do believe that you can download these files to the computer so next time, the PC will boot them instead of you having to DL them every time from the server (even when you already got the files). I'll check on that, but my buddy was telling me about that. Though, if you do go that route, you'll have to pay attention from when the game, in the chat section of the game, that it will give you the statement "The game has been updated, please restart Guild Wars" so you can get the new files and all so the game will actually run right.

Guild Wars is updated ALL of the TIME. Pretty much, WEEKLY or BI-WEEKLY....

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:27:49 PM »
Well...shit. This information would have been useful like...before I bought the game.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 09:39:12 PM »
Well...shit. This information would have been useful like...before I bought the game.
Does WoW update all the time on you and make you download files and stuff???? Does WoW force you to download new files and junk on you like Guild Wars does???

I dunno' where I put the box, but I think on the Guild Wars box, it does have listed as a minimum requirement "DSL or Broadband" for Internet Connection.

A few years back, yuh -- I began to hate my dial-up for MP. I just couldn't tolerate MP too much w/ dial-up, as I was always kicked out of rooms, so I often had to create or jump in one of the few dial-up rooms w/ crazy pings and all. Latency or download times sucked, so I leaned more to the SP side of games...I still prefer SP, but every now and then, I do need some MP.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 10:08:50 PM »
WoW has patches that you download. You can download them out of the game in a download manager or whatever. Other than that, it doesnt have to load in between areas. Ok, if you switch continents or go into the instanced dungeon it loads, but otherwise you can walk from one end of the continent to the other without stopping to load anything. Certainly no downloading of anything.

Oh well. Most web sites say GW plays fine of dialup so I'm not worried too much about that. Its just this loading of areas is going to suck ass.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 10:16:24 PM »
Sounds crappy.  I guess them's the breaks.  I'm still trying to figure out how I'm going to ship shit tomorrow and I haven't gotten to play any Mr. Robot tonight.  And that makes me full of sadness.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 10:23:44 PM »
Well, at least I'm not paying a subscription where this eats away at my paid play time. So I guess thats a plus.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 11:00:48 PM »
Dude, you should really think about upgrading to cable internet or something. It's a lot faster.



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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 11:05:26 PM »
I hate you.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 11:07:40 PM »
You know, you should just find the closest city near you that actually has cable and make an agreement with someone there to split their line and run it several (hundred?) miles to your house. It might be your only hope for a while.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 11:10:54 PM »
I like your thinking. I'm assuming that by "agreement" you meant "at gunpoint with threats of death". Apparently Idol, Ant and Que have handguns. Just in case, you know, things come up.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 11:18:46 PM »
Strangely enough, I was thinking more like, "Hey, you're getting cable. I'll pay you $30 a month to splice your line."

Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 11:22:59 PM »
I wouldn't leech cable. I'd take it by force.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 01:08:00 AM »
Idol has no broadband because he can't get it where he lives.  I thought like... the universe at large knew that?

Dude I am not kidding about this. D still thinks I am in Canada. hahaha.

But Idol, this just makes me think I don't want to get the game now. Either that or get it with the first expansion.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 11:41:40 AM »
Update!

I let the thing download overnight. At some point I was disconnected, and I'm just guessing it was because it finished, entered the game, and my character sat idle for too long. I reconnected and the game downloaded about 2MB of more files and I was finally able to play.

This game is very pretty, and quite fun. It reminds me a bit like WoW, and a bit Diablo. Its kind of cool that the "world" other than towns is instanced. So when you defeat a boss...its defeated. It doesnt respawn in 5 minutes for the next adventurer. At least not in YOUR instances. So it feels like you are really doing something.

It seems to play just fine on dialup as advertised. I've entered several towns and had loading screens but they have all be quite short. They all generally use the same assets so once I move farther along it might be different, but once its downloaded you have it so reloading areas go fast. At very least they make good times for bathroom breaks.

So now I have to decide my professions (which are like WoWs classes, not crafting). My character I tried ranger/necromancer but I'm not sure I like it. I might make something new to try.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 07:03:36 PM »
Just whatever you do, don't have fun with it and make me want to play it.  That's all I ask.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 07:30:05 PM »
Dont worry, its not fun at all. Like...none. Zero.



BRB, playing more.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 11:15:57 PM »
Some spoiler stuff here I guess. Beware.

Also, Que, basically what I'm saying here is that the game is boring and sucks. So don't bother reading the following text.



So I got to a point in a quest where it said if I continue, I could never return to the place I was at. Interesting. I put that off and did some other quests I hadn't finished. Eventually I just abandoned the 2 or 3 I had left and went for the gusto! No turning back! Woo!

First thing they did was drop me into a group of players. We were all wearing the same color cape. Turns out this was a PvP match! Kind of an interesting thing do to. The PvP is pretty fun, actually. In this particular case we had to simply kill the enemy team as many times as possible within 2 minutes. The team with the most kills wins. A NPC explained that it didn't matter if we won or lost, the game would continue the same either way. Well, I don't want to brag, but we kicked the red teams ass. I'm a mesmer/monk so I laid some hurt down and stayed alive for some time healing. It was kind of frantic so I didnt get any heals off on anyone else, but I believe we had a healer in our group that did that for us.

After that we followed some prince into a cave to kill some big critter. Cakewalk, we just steamrolled everything in our path. Then there was a cutscene and it turns out the world goes to hell as the bad dudes destroy the main city! ZOMG! So now I'm in the ruins of the city doing stuff. Its really busy and laggy, but still cool.

I'm guessing its for the holidays, but the entire city is covered in snow. Its neat.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 11:59:06 PM »
Sounds like you just got to post-searing Ascalon.  That whole pre-searing thing isn't much more than a training level, of sorts.  Granted, one of the biggest training levels ever, but it's just for new players to try out all the classes if they want so it's easier for them to decide what they want.  The game actually starts at post-searing ascalon though.

I'm down to play a little, but I'm going away for a couple days so I won't be able to until Saturday.

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Re: Guild Wars: the waiting game
« Reply #25 on: Monday, January 01, 2007, 12:41:04 AM »
More junk and stuff.

Loading hasn't been a problem at all since that initial load. It seems every day theres a 1MB or so download when I connect...probably contains that days updates (they update all the time). It also loads in the background as you play. Seems to work as planned and I haven't notice any extra lag or anything. So kudos to the GW people.

I learned about the city "districts", as they call them. See, each city has a max capacity. When this capacity is reached a new city instance is created and people entering the city will go into this new "district". Its the same city...parallel universe. You can switch between the districts with a little drop down menu and meet a whole new set of people.

GW quests are interesting. There are Quests and Missions. Quests are your usual fare. Go out, explore, kill something, find something, bring back something, etc. These are all optional, you do them for XP, the reward. or just for fun. You can also learn new spells from these so its worth checking out.

Now missions are different, as they advance the storyline of the game. Its pretty cool and makes the game almost like a singleplayer game. Cutscenes and everything.

Next bit is an explination of the first mission I was on.

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Long story short, pretty damn cool. The instances allow for things to happen and play out that wouldn't be possible in a "regular" MMO such as WoW. Very cool.