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Offline gpw11

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The heart of darkness within myself
« on: Saturday, December 15, 2007, 03:27:49 PM »
This is another long as post and it pretty much serves as a confession.  I realized last night that I’m essentially on the verge of a full out nervous breakdown, and it’s been a long time coming.  You may remember a few years ago when I’d post about having panic attacks occasionally or flipping out, but I don’t think I ever actually fully went into the underlying reasons.  This is that story, but it’s not a story at all – more of an explanation.

The put it bluntly, I have multiple personalities. This isn’t a natural thing or a disorder, but something I’ve cultivated and I’ve done so very well.  I can pinpoint exactly where and when this started, and it was the start of my first year of university.   I was lead to believe that after highschool life changes and I found that to be a bit of an illusion.  I should explain that I wasn’t having a bad time, far from it, and I didn’t need life to change: I had a lot of friends, a good family, girls liked me, and all that.  The problem was boredom.  I wasn’t bored of anything in particular, but bored of everything in general.  There were always parties to go to, new people to meet, and all that, but nothing really offered anything new.  I’m sure other people fell the same way, but I’m not so sure other people handled it in the same manner as I did .

I learned to make a game of everything.  For pretty much everything I did, I’d set a secondary goal that I’d try to accomplish.   Going out to a bar?  I’m going to try to get a number from a girl with brown short hair.  Going to a party, I’m going to try to socially engineer a situation where my friend can hook up with this girl.  In class?  Try to discreetly change this discussion groups topic from the UN to something to do with the IMF.

It didn’t matter if I actually completed these goals, it just mattered that I tried.  It was good, and things got a lot more interesting, but somewhere along the way my personality “split”.

I suppose it was because I started setting goals that I wouldn’t normally try to accomplish and I was in an environment where I didn’t know a lot of people for a very long time and as such had few expectations placed on me in regards to how I acted.  In any case, in certain situations I’d pretty much become someone else who wouldn’t do things that I’d do, or more correctly, someone who would do things I wouldn’t normally do.

I don’t want to give the impression that I was acting like another person completely, or that I had a completely different personality entirely, but I’d only show certain sides of me in certain situations with certain people.  Initially this was very minor: I’d buy shots out with certain friends, but not with others. I’d talk about taking down girls in certain crowds, but not in others.  With friends from work I’d be somewhat serious, but from class I’d be a total clown.  Things like that.   Retrospectively, the problem is that while this started out pretty minor, over time these set personalities grew further and further apart, and it was a hard thing to realize that this is what I was doing, let alone stop. 

To be honest, it also changed my natural state in that my “original personality” altered to be nicer to people and never really take things seriously.  Yet, with certain people and in certain situations I’d be someone else entirely.  Someone who’s moral compass is broken.   Not to say I’d deliberately do very bad things, but I’d do thinks I wouldn’t normally do because it’s a dog eat dog world out there, and you either take advantage of situations or get left behind.  For example, I might be at a party with certain friends, and start talking with a girl.  In the “original state” I might not make any move at all or just get her number when I could have slept with her. If I was in that exact situation in my other state because of different friends and expectations, I’d go right in for the kill.  Yet, even knowing this, were I to get that girls number in the first situation there is a very high probability I would never call it because I met her in the wrong “state”. 

I believe the first time I actually had to start covering his up was in my third year of university when I moved into a house with a few friends of mine from high school who also attended the same university.  We were really good friends back in the day, but hadn’t hung out that much since.  I lived with these guys and some others off and on for two years in which these personalities pretty much totally separated.  I gained a reputation among them (and as a result among a lot of my other friends from high school) as a “secret agent”. Disappearing for periods of time, going out without telling anyone or not telling people where I’m going, things like that.  This was because my personalities had split to the point that this was a necessity.  I basically had to keep groups of friends segregated. 

In the years since, things have gotten worse to the point where my prime directive is ultimately secrecy, and I’m very good at what I do.  It works out well, but there’s a huge problem; my personality is broken.   The two halfs of me are so far apart that in my natural state, I often won’t know how to act.  I’m sure most of us will remember a  post on here a few years ago this time of year that caused a fair amount of controversy.  This is somewhat the same.  It’s to the point where I essentially can’t control who I am, that’s defined by external influences, and it doesn’t work because as I said – my natural state is broken.

So, as a result I essentially have to try to merge these two, which is not an easy thing to do since it feels like I’m forcing myself to act in certain ways when it should be (and IS under different circumstances) natural.  So what I’m left with is a situation when I doubt myself when I know I shouldn’t, and I don’t do things that feel natural to do under different circumstances.  It’s extremely hard to explain, but it kind of tears you apart.

I should clarify that this place is kind of holy ground in that it is the place where both personalities can co-exist.  There are no expectations, and you guys have never actually seen either of these personalities entirely, so there’s no pressure to act unnaturally.  That is essentially why this is getting posted here.  It had to be said, and there was no fucking way I could actually tell anyone I know this because it’s fucking weird.  Anyways, it’s just something I had to get out, and if you actually read all this thanks for your time.

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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #1 on: Saturday, December 15, 2007, 05:57:33 PM »
I read it all of course beav.  8)

Man this is some heavy stuff.

I've always thought of you as the cool type of guy who if someone is in trouble you'll say "WTF? Chill out man life doesn't have to be hard or split into groups."

Mostly I just imagine you saying "WTF" a lot while wearing your beaver icon lol.  :P

But anyway maybe the key to bringing yourself back to center is questioning yourself until you find the real you and once you find the real you take from those other personalities the parts that are good and throw away the rest and become a single solid laid back but purpose driven entity again who doesn't let himself get overwhelmed by the details or allow himself to stress over things too much by trying to meet others expectations. 

In short gradually and gently drop the masks and be who you really are and should be. :)

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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #2 on: Saturday, December 15, 2007, 09:23:18 PM »
wow, if you need to talk, by all means give us a shout. been down the "dark places" road and done all that fucked up shit. therapy can help, if you don't feel you can talk to anybody else about it.

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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #3 on: Saturday, December 15, 2007, 09:58:11 PM »
Yeah, I'd imagine a therapist would probably know a lot about that kind of behavior.  I mean, I think it's natural for people to act a bit different around different groups.  I think we all do that on some level, and I know I do it pretty heavily.  I think you've just taken the natural adaptation to people and taken it to extremes.

Still, I hope you can work it out so that you don't have to lead such a duplicitous life.  I can imagine that gets really tiring after a while.  I'm glad you can at least feel somewhat natural here with us... but I guess that's the joy of the internet, right?

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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #4 on: Sunday, December 16, 2007, 03:16:46 AM »
I half know where you're coming from, for reasons you were getting at towards the end there. It's hard to describe the place you're at because it really isn't all that hard from where you would be normally, or by default.  It's different, but not. I imagine you know what I mean.

Personally, I occasionally have trouble when I put something down here because I'm not sure if it's something that I would have only said if I was still Sav and I hesitate before I post it. More often than not, I usually just realize it's just me anyways and the only difference is that if I was speaking it the voice would be mine own rather than the voice I created. The words would have been exactly the same, so what difference does it really make (especially here)? Merging the sides was more of a matter of just realizing that and cutting away the excess story created to justify the other side.

The hardest part for me was actually merging the external portions of the two worlds together. That is, bringing the people you segregated into the same fold, at least on some level. For me that meant coming to terms with you guys and meeting some of you. Having everyone see who I really was and hoping they didn't hate me for lying was daunting. Thankfully, you were all decent enough to give me another chance. Hopefully you hooked up with a core of people out there who will give you the same courtesy.

But yeah, we're here and all that stuff. That's gotta count for something, right?

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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #5 on: Sunday, December 16, 2007, 05:35:18 AM »
Ahhh shit...

Take it from someone who does a juggling act between extremely different cultures... if you look deep inside, you will find some form of common behavior. That's who you are.

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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #6 on: Sunday, December 16, 2007, 10:58:02 PM »
To be perfectly honest it probably sounds worse when reading it then it actually is, mainly because it's extremely hard to be concise when explaining the problem.  I don't think it's something that would require therapy by any means, but rather something I'd have to pay attention to and keep in mind in order to "recondition" myself.

I don't know.  Either way, thanks for reading and commenting.

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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2007, 12:31:46 AM »
that was scary to read because it's so familiar.  I can completely relate to how you can juggle different personalities and be the way you need/want to be in a given situation depending on your desired outcome.  Also to the part about not knowing which you is more natural. 

I wouldn't recommend a therapist though.  I would say quiet time would help. I'm in a similar situation where i just need to stop and regroup.

Sometimes, I get frightened that I'm losing who I really am.  But I know deep down inside me that there's a place I can go to where I can find myself...  I hate going there because it's so honest and real.. All the walls I've built with the different "personalities" aren't there, all the excuses I make, all the hats i wear don't work there.

anyway...  I wish you luck.
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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2007, 06:53:26 AM »
Wow, I felt like I was just reading about myself.  I'd say I have no less than four distinct personalities which are governed by the people/environment around me at any given time.  One thing I can attest to is the fact that it does sneak up on you.  Like you said, it begins with something minor like a certain trait of yours that only appears around some people. 

I'll admit to running into the problem of meeting people and being in the wrong personality mode when meeting someone new, but I chalk that up to my own miscalculation -- see I think we have something similar going on, but we're both looking at it from different perspectives.  I don't know if this means I've spiraled beyond a point of recognizing this as a problem, or if I never considered it one, but I find that this is my secondary goal, or game.  I need to estimate the type of person I'm meeting and play into the personality that suits them best.  I suppose a good, if otherwise inefficient, word for it is being two-faced but it's with good intentions generally.

EDIT: I hit post too early, I didn't finish typing.  Whatever the case, I guess I only posted to show you that you're not alone.  I've actually never thought badly of how I act, aside from the fact that it is the breeding ground of a liar.  To me, I'm no "liar," I'm a "bullshitter."  It sounds better.  I honestly don't think of this as a bad thing, though.  I'm really only bullshitting myself because when you're "bullshitting" other people, you're giving them the side of you they want to see.  They react positively and the snowball begins to roll.  Really, where is the harm in that?  I suppose the only thing that might get to you is the thought of being a blank slate, so to speak, or a guy with no true personality.  Thoughts like this are just in your head though -- in fact you have many personalities, each of which a particular group of people in your life enjoys having around.  Unless your worries become serious and starts affecting your life I wouldn't seek help from anybody but yourself.  There are times in everyones lives when they're unsure of themselves or where their lives are supposed to be.

I suppose it's twisted in a way to "play" different people, but then again it's really not.  Everybody wants to be liked, and changing up the act here and there allows us to feel like we're well-rounded and loved by everyone.  It's about the reaction you get in different environments that plays into how you'll act there, I feel.  Everyone has a little bit of this going on, I'm sure.  I would not recommend a therapist unless you're really, truly encountering some serious mental anguish over this.  Otherwise, try to understand who you are for yourself.  I'm pretty sure that I know who I am when it's just me around (although I confuse even myself on occasion), which is why I find my personal time really important.  I need to set aside at LEAST 2-4 hours a day to be alone doing whatever the fuck doesn't bore me at the time (usually gaming or the internet).  I don't necessarily have to think about my life and try to figure out who I am because me being myself and doing something that doesn't bore me is who I am.  I kind of feel like if I ever were to meet you guys I would be pretty close to who I am -- I think we all would.  This is why I admire our community here so much -- it's a place where nothing matters except things that we enjoy and how we can share them with people we've never actually met (at least that's how it started -- some of us have become good enough friends to actually meet).

Get some solid gpw-time in every day and do some light reflecting along with the things you enjoy.  This is quite a ramble but I swear there's gotta be something good in there.
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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2007, 05:23:08 PM »
is it really a personality swap though or it's just little bits and pieces of you coming out when needed?  i used to like referring to it as being "chameleon-like" haha
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Re: The heart of darkness within myself
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2007, 11:49:10 PM »
I don't think that the idea is to merge the personalities but rather to create a situation where they aren't destructive. My initial response to the original post was that everyone changes personalities to a degree based upon the situation. And even though this isn't deliberate most of the time, it's usually not harmful. The fact that people empathized with your situation highlights this.

It seems like the personalities didn't start to become a burden until you realized that they existed - or, at least, tried to further separate them for the sole purpose that they need to be polar opposites. In any case, the personalities weren't even the problem to being with - it was the boredom. Go to the source of the problem and maybe the externalities will work themselves out.