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Offline idolminds

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Smart kids like metal
« on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 11:37:37 PM »
Interesting.

Wait...I grew up listening to lots of Weird Al and whatever Dr Demento aired. WTF does that say about me?

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Re: Smart kids like metal
« Reply #1 on: Thursday, March 22, 2007, 01:17:57 AM »
In fact, I think they're missing one of the more important points -- heavy metal is much "smarter" music than most of the shit on the airwaves today.  What I mean is that it's a lot more complex.  It does different things, it teases and strains traditional theory, and mixes lots of often disparate elements.  You don't find much innovation in music these days, most especially not in pop, hip hop, or R&B.  A lot of incredibly smart people I know listen to bands like Anata, Extol, Sikth, Meshuggah, Gorod, Necrophagist, Psycroptic, Dillinger Escape Plan, etc. because there's so much raw, unabashed complexity.  Metal in general has far more in common with classical music than people give it credit for, certainly far more than your average rock and pop radio vomit, and technical bands take that base and often twist it into odd patterns.  Think of it as musical origami.  I used to think it was really odd that I liked classical, jazz, and metal more than most other forms of music.  As I've gone on, I've discovered I'm far from alone.

So while what they say is true, I think they've got the wrong focus with their study.  There are plenty of smart kids who use metal as a place to vent aggression, but there are plenty of dumb ones that do that, too.  They need to look a little deeper and discover that you could be brain dead and still get System of a Down on their basic level, but you need to be attentive if you're going to follow and appreciate DEP or Sikth on any significant level.  A lot of smart kids gravitate toward technical metal for that very reason.  Which is probably why there's a growing number of younger people that can do shit on the guitar that makes their forefathers scrape their jaws off the floor.

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Re: Smart kids like metal
« Reply #2 on: Thursday, March 22, 2007, 08:57:03 AM »
Metal in general has far more in common with classical music than people give it credit for, certainly far more than your average rock and pop radio vomit, and technical bands take that base and often twist it into odd patterns.  Think of it as musical origami.  I used to think it was really odd that I liked classical, jazz, and metal more than most other forms of music.  As I've gone on, I've discovered I'm far from alone.

That is probably the most true thing about metal and I agree with you 100%, also when talking to people about what music I listen to I get strange looks when I tell them I listen to metal like Meshuggah, Zao, or Napalm Death (and many more) but then I can put on some Strauss, Debussey, or Wagner a few minutes later.  In fact I'm listening to some Strauss right now.

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Re: Smart kids like metal
« Reply #3 on: Thursday, March 22, 2007, 09:09:28 AM »
I like music with lots of instruments and also isn't too loud. I dislike most aggressive and loud music. I have become a huge, huge fan of Sufjan Stevens and I encourage everyone to give his "Come on feel the Illinoise" album a listen. I think its some of the most intelligent and finely crafted music made this decade.
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Re: Smart kids like metal
« Reply #4 on: Thursday, March 22, 2007, 06:02:02 PM »
And my comments should by no means indicate I don't like other stuff, and I'm sure the same goes for Tet.  My musical taste is pretty huge in variety on the whole, but what I say about metal is important, I think, because of how abused the genre has gone for so many years.  There's more there than people think.

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