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Offline gpw11

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EEE PC
« on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 09:30:13 PM »
Has anyone used one?  I've been pondering getting one for a while now for pure productivity purposes but am a bit worried about the size of the keyboard/screen making it unusable for longer periods of time.  Any opinions?

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #1 on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 09:34:19 PM »
Havent tried one, but I so want one.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #2 on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 09:50:58 PM »
I've seen lots and lots and lots of people wishing the keyboard and screen were bigger.  It's neat as an ultraportable, but ultimately its size is its downfall.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #3 on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 10:02:16 PM »
EEE with touchscreen    DAAAAMN.

I guess the other thing is that there's an HP contender just around the corner that's higher rated with a full size keyboard and 10 inch screen as well as the EEE 900 coming out soon.  Both would be just about perfect, but are in the $500-$600 range.  You can get a full featured laptop for that and the size thing is kind of a double edged sword.  Is a solid state drive really all that big of a deal?


EDIT: Yeah scott, that's my main fear.  $100 more for an ultra portable with a slightly bigger screen and keyboard or $100 more for a refurbished full featured laptop?  That's kind of where I'm sitting right now.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #4 on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 10:07:21 PM »
Oh my, touch screen? Me likey. The HP one looks neat as well.

For me, I'm going with the form factor. I want it to be very portable so I'm more likely to actually carry it with me, jump one some free wifi and download some things. I dont really need a full featured laptop for that, and the size would have me keeping it at home more often. And when I'm home, thats what the desktop it for.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #5 on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 10:12:47 PM »
Yeah, that's the thing.  I mainly only need a laptop for when I go to the library/school and need to get things done.  In either case I'm driving and if I'm at school I'm carrying books anyways so I can just buy a bag and throw them in there too. I liked the idea of the EEE PC because its so utilitarian, but mainstream laptops have dropped enough that it doesn't really make financial sense to buy one if size isn't the selling point.  Case in point

I guess I'll just watch for deals on regular notebooks and plan to drop $500 instead of $400.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #6 on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 10:30:46 PM »
If you're just looking for something portable with a browser you might want to think about the iPod Touch. I have a laptop but I use my Touch to browse the internet wherever I'm at, and it's a full-fledged browser. Although obviously you can't download or do much work on it...

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #7 on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 10:44:48 PM »
Yeah....that's almost the exact opposite of what I'm looking for.  You do raise a valid point though.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #8 on: Friday, April 11, 2008, 11:16:07 PM »
I'm curious about all this as well.  I'm in the market for a laptop again pretty much strictly for writing, and I honestly have no idea what to go for.  Portability and battery life are the main things I need.  It's basically just going to be a moving word processor.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #9 on: Saturday, April 12, 2008, 06:36:14 AM »
i own an eee.. love it!
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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #10 on: Sunday, April 13, 2008, 04:20:32 PM »
No you don't!  Why does she always lie about this stuff? 

Ok, Raisa....how do you like your "eee PC"?  Do you find  the "keyboard" and the "screen" to be perfectly usable for long periods of time?

I ended up trying one out for a few min. yesterday and I'm personally going to pass on it at this time.  Don't get me wrong; it's sweet for what it is, but size isn't a huge issue for me and there's actually a disutility involved with the tiny size for what I need it for (there's also a good chance it'd be a bit of a bitch to do some of the things I need in AutoCAD on it).  If it had a 10 inch screen and a bigger keyboard i'd have a different opinion, but that's not the case for now.

As for you Que, from the research I've done it looks like it'd be best to wait.  The current ones have been on the market for almost a year, and while they're still very cool, there are much better things on the horizon.  The 900 is out soon with a bigger drive, bigger screen, and (soon) a faster CPU.  HP has it's contender coming out (with both a solid state and traditional high capacity option) and all sorts of manufacturers are jumping in on the market.  If your notebook is going to hold out for a while, I'd wait until competition heats up, prices drop, and features start getting added.  The other thing is that Intel is about to launch their new cpu line (ATOM) meant for exactly these devices, which should be more powerful and energy efficient. 

Personally, I'm going to get something like that laptop mentioned earlier (I'll probably make a new post for that) at $500 and then see where the market is for these bitches in a year or two.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #11 on: Sunday, April 13, 2008, 04:58:54 PM »
Thanks for the reply, that's helpful.  I don't currently have a laptop of any kind now so have been out of the loop on the general state of things for some time, and I mostly need one now because my commute to work is going to be doubling at the very least pretty soon, and I'd have time to do writing stuff on the subway.  Plus I'll have to be more vigilant about my computer use at work because I'll be working in a building with three times the employees since our buildings are combining, and that means no more sneaky computer use without getting punished for it later in all likelihood.  If I'm ever going to finish my novels, I think a notebook is going to be a necessity.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #12 on: Sunday, April 13, 2008, 07:10:05 PM »
Is there a Linux version of AutoCAD?  Because an Eee PC runs Xandros Linux.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #13 on: Sunday, April 13, 2008, 07:16:01 PM »
You can install XP on the Eee, lots of people do. Though depending on the model I imagine you need to do a cut down version.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #14 on: Sunday, April 13, 2008, 08:12:41 PM »
Thanks for the reply, that's helpful.  I don't currently have a laptop of any kind now so have been out of the loop on the general state of things for some time, and I mostly need one now because my commute to work is going to be doubling at the very least pretty soon, and I'd have time to do writing stuff on the subway.  Plus I'll have to be more vigilant about my computer use at work because I'll be working in a building with three times the employees since our buildings are combining, and that means no more sneaky computer use without getting punished for it later in all likelihood.  If I'm ever going to finish my novels, I think a notebook is going to be a necessity.

That makes it tough.  If you're commuting that much, the smaller form factor and footprint might make a huge difference.  I guess it's something you're going to have to think about, but I really think at this point holding off AT LEAST until the EEE PC 900 (10 inch screen, bigger keyboard, roughly the same size and weight) comes out.  Even then, I think Asus stated that they're going to be releasing it with the old processor first and then introducing a new model monthly or even every second month with new features like the new ATOM CPU and a possible touch screen.  Even if that's not your thing, you can count on prices dropping pretty quickly once competition heats up and new models are popping out (at least on the current generation.

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Is there a Linux version of AutoCAD?  Because an Eee PC runs Xandros Linux.

I'm not sure, but like Idol said people are installing XP on it (and just last week Asus launched the EEE with XP pre-installed for an extra $50 or so).  The thing is that the EEE currently comes in models with a 2GB, 4GB, or 8GB solid state drive.  You obviously have to strip down Windows for the 4 GB version (the 2GB SSD is just too small for XP period) and a lot of people have been using micro-drives for storage.  The shitty thing is that a lot of programs won't let you install directly on to a micro-drive so your free hard-drive space fills up quickly anyways.  I think this would probably be the case with AutoCAD, and even if it's not it's not the kind of program I can imagine is very usable on this type of device.

The 8GB version isn't really cost effective at all right now as it pretty much starts to get more expensive than cheap laptops once you throw in the extra RAM needed and XP (I think it retails at around $499 before any upgrades).  At that point the base HP Mini-Note with the bigger screen, keyboard, and 4 GB SSD seems like a better idea.  OR, ideally you could throw down $549 and get the Mini-note with a 120GB SATA drive (all the models above this one are restrictively priced for what you get). 

Like I said, it just seems that it'll be a much better market for people like us in a year or even a few months.  More storage, more usable, and hopefully for around the same price as they are now.

 

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #15 on: Monday, April 14, 2008, 05:57:36 AM »
No you don't!  Why does she always lie about this stuff? 

Ok, Raisa....how do you like your "eee PC"?  Do you find  the "keyboard" and the "screen" to be perfectly usable for long periods of time?

The keyboard threw me off at first.  But i have small hands, so it's okay, but I can't use it for long periods if I'm typing a lot cause then my hands start to ache.  But if I'm using it for checking emails etc.. it's not a problem whatsoever.

I also have another keyboard I can attach to it so....  The screen is fine as long i dont' have too many windows open.

I'm loving it cause of the weight and size.  It's really handy.  i have a big laptop that i use if I need to be doing lots of work on a computer.

the wifi works well, the speakers are good. 

OH BTW, I dont' have linux on mine.. it's got windows xp.
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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 11:23:54 AM »
First review of the Eee PC 900

The larger screen makes it look so sexy. I want.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 07:06:43 PM »
Jeez.  That's... tempting...

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 11:10:09 PM »
Knowing how you'd be using it, though, don't gloss over the 2-hour battery life.

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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 11:14:40 PM »
2 hours with optimal battery usage or with the regular screen brightness? My laptop gets around 2 hours battery usage with the screen fully bright but I can decrease the brightness and get at least double that.

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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 11:50:44 PM »
Yeah, there's no way this would work for me.  A reliable 3 hours would be absolute rock-bottom minimum for me.  5 would be best, 4 would be cool.  I need 2 hours for commute (an hour each way... estimated), an hour for lunch, and if I can get a little bit for extra time, that'd be good too.  2.5 hours is definitely not gonna' cut it.  I could always charge at work, but that kind of blows.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 11:58:17 PM »
Scratch that last post - it's 3 hours 46 minutes total fully charged, and that's with a fairly new battery (purchase a month and a half ago). 2 hours is pretty damn short.

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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, April 17, 2008, 01:05:36 AM »
Yeah, it really is.  I guess they still only use 4 cell batteries (which is weird because the 8G model originally used a 6 cell.  One more reason to wait for me at least.  That and I just dropped $500 on a laptop.

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Re: EEE PC
« Reply #23 on: Thursday, April 17, 2008, 02:02:08 AM »
These extremely portable systems are exactly what I look for when I think of a computer I can carry around (although I do treat my desktop like a laptop on occasion). The only laptop/notebook computers I'll consider are either incredibly tiny or ridiculously huge (with a numpad and all). I'm not a fan of the mid-range stuff.

I remember the Toshiba Libretto (which is apparently discontinued now) was one of the first tiny systems I seriously considered, but it was too costly at the time. The Asus EEE PC is very appealing.

Has anyone seen the Samsung Q1 Ultra? It's basically a handheld PC. Here's a review from Geek.com too.

It's true that battery life is often disappointing with these machines, though I remember a time when  "good" laptop batteryspan was 2 hours, and if you asked for more than that you were being unreasonable.

My portable device now is just my phone (Nokia N95), I have to charge it on a daily basis (or if I'm lucky bidaily) and I bitch about it. My last phone (Nokia 6230i) could last 5 days (standby) and a good 3 days if I use it often (officially the battery gives you 5 hours talk time).