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Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 05:41:05 PM »

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #1 on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 05:43:52 PM »
I didn't get it without reading the description. Maybe if the gal was a bit older, otherwise, stupid.

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Re: Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #2 on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 06:55:02 PM »
I totally don't see any problem at all.  Like, the reaction is totally blowing me away...am I missing something?  Is the model someone I should know?


Note: yes, people have sex.

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #3 on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 07:12:59 PM »
Haha, I thought it was pretty good.

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #4 on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 07:54:23 PM »
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Mike: the point is that it would NEVER be a beautiful teenage boy in an ad, lying submissively, with a come-hither look in his eyes.

This ad was made by men, for men, representing the male power fantasy and the male gaze. Women are objects like cars to be used.

When men are represented as being sexy by the media they are still strong, in power. Women are the submissive recepticles practically submitting themselves.

The term "sex sells" really means "we're selling to men, and what they want is to feel control over a female sexual object".

Men need to stand up and say that they're more than just hormonal animals controled by their primitive brains.

Hahha.  People are morons.

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #5 on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 09:02:07 PM »
After reading what this is about, I couldn't possibly be less interested in seeing it or participating in the debate. I'm so beyond fucking sick of all this debate over gender roles.

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #6 on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 10:10:03 PM »
People really are morons.  There is no one more powerful socially than a girl who looks like that and knows how to use her gift.  Submissive my ass.  Drooling men will be putty in her hands, ready and willing slaves.  Whoever opposes that is prudishly or ideologically judgmental, unrequitedly needy, plain stupid, or green with envy.

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #7 on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 11:06:19 PM »
I know, right? Honestly, people need to drop all the ridiculous gender garbage.


Just be more like Toyota.


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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #8 on: Monday, September 03, 2012, 11:55:26 PM »
I think the problem is the text suggests the girl is underage or something? No?

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 12:04:36 AM »
Hmm, am I a feminist? This ad has me questioning the very fibre of my being!

But seriously, that ad sucks ;D haha

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 12:19:05 AM »
Used car = used girl (a young one at that). Especially with text like "But do you really care?" afterwards. Don't tell me you guys can't see how that could be an issue.  

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 12:40:11 AM »
OHHHHH... OK now I get it. Yeah, that's awful actually.

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Just giving it more thought. Sorry, that's pretty messed up. I posted it here because I didn't get it. :P

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Re: Re: Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 01:37:10 AM »
Used car = used girl (a young one at that). Especially with text like "But do you really care?" afterwards. Don't tell me you guys can't see how that could be an issue.  

I totally don't see anything wrong with it at all, and I don't really think age is a factor, or was really thought about at all when the ad was thought up.

Seriously, I could today be missing something here, but the general message of "who cares, it's a nice car/ who cares, she's fucking hot" seems pretty valid. 

In fact, I'd almost go the other way and say that the complaints are pretty good examples of the hyper sensitive attitudes that contribute to slut-shaming, which is far more insensitive and outdated than anything anybody in the comments (Or Roger fucking Ebert) is complaining about.   


But really, peg an age on that model.

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 11:26:57 AM »
Oh boy...

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 12:48:33 PM »
hmmmm... I didn't look at it the other way. "So what if she is sexually active, and you are another partner for her. Does it matter?"

That's pro feminism, isn't it?

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 01:24:39 PM »
I'm not sure. The impression I get from all the recent discussion about feminism is that anything that might make a man happy is sexist and bad.

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 01:48:19 PM »
I'm not sure. The impression I get from all the recent discussion about feminism is that anything that might make a man happy is sexist and bad.
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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 02:02:04 PM »
Haha

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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, September 04, 2012, 08:36:15 PM »
Oh boy...

Ha.  Seriously, I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but I don't really see much wrong with it, assuming the girl isn't 12 or something.  But beyond that, I think an outraged reaction from something so harmless is far more indicative of an unhealthy society than a passive reaction of "whatever" in this case.

hmmmm... I didn't look at it the other way. "So what if she is sexually active, and you are another partner for her. Does it matter?"

That's pro feminism, isn't it?


Feminism isn't a unified front by any means, and Sy had a pretty good overall definition, but yeah, were you to say "This ad is horrible!  It's depicting this young adult as being sexually active and having more than one partner in her lifetime!" at a feminist event, you probably wouldn't be walking out of there alive.

Honestly, I don't think there's a lot of feminists making complaints in there.  And if they are, they're the militant, out of touch, 70's style feminists. It seems most of those complaining at the blog are either a.) White Knights, or b.) have their head in the sand.  Of course, this is going off the assumption that I still have where the problem people are seeing is that an adult of consensual age has had more than one sexual partner in her lifetime.


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Re: Is there anything wrong with this ad?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, September 05, 2012, 02:48:51 AM »
HAha those crazy feminist gals!