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Offline Pugnate

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Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« on: Sunday, January 21, 2007, 03:55:47 PM »
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=1986390&enterthread=y

Read his original post and then read through his comments through out.

His name is muskyx1. If I were in his position I'd be tearing my hair out.

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Re: Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday, January 21, 2007, 05:45:15 PM »
Wow.  What a nightmare.  I generally like shopping at BB, but I usually only buy movies and games from there.  The largest thing I've ever purchased was my Xbox 360 a week ago.

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Re: Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday, January 21, 2007, 06:50:51 PM »
Wow that's terrible service right there.

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Re: Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday, January 21, 2007, 11:52:27 PM »
Fuck, I worked at Future Shop for about 6 months a few years ago (same company).  The management style and philosophy they have there is a fucking joke.  I swear they're not even looking for money they've just got a giant counter somewhere counting how many people they've fucked over and the entire goal of the company is to make that number hit 6 billion.  Run by monkeys.

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Re: Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« Reply #4 on: Monday, January 22, 2007, 12:00:26 AM »
So Future Shop got bought by Best Buy? Anyway I've taken advantage of the deals and policies at Future Shop and always liked it.

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Here is one experience I had at Future Shop, and I am not exaggerating about any of it:

Salesman: So buddy what are you looking for?

Me: I am looking for a printer.

Salesman: Here is our HP bla bla bla. It is bla bla bla.

Me: $250? That's pretty expensive.

Salesman: But look at what it can do bla bla bla.

Me: No I'd rather have something cheaper, as I just need to print some documents and nothing fancy.

Salesman: *lowers voice* Man just buy it, use it, and then return it at the end of the month. I'll get my commission and you can do your documents.

Me: Yea?

OK so I was a bastard and took advantage. Used the printer for the stuff I needed to do and then returned it.

Also when I think of a large electronics store, I start thinking of the staff at forty year old virgin.

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Re: Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« Reply #5 on: Monday, January 22, 2007, 12:27:19 AM »
I've generally not had any problems with Future Shop.

I have a Pocket PC HP iPaq 1940 (don't use it anymore though) that broke 1 day after the warranty ended.  I brought it back to  Future Shop and they were kind of reluctant to do it, they did send it back to HP and get it fixed for me.

My first Xbox360 was defective out of the box when I bought it.  I called Xbox support and it was just a whole bunch of transferring and stuff until finally they were like, we'll send you a box to ship your xbox in and we'll fix it for you.  I basically said screw that, I'm just gonna take it back to the store and get a new one.  And Future Shop gave me a new one.

So generally, I haven't had much of a problem with their service.  I did buy my 62" DLP TV from Future Shop as well though, and I hope I don't encounter any problems with it because that does make it sound scary if I have to deal with them.  Then again, my warranty is over, so I'd deal directly with Toshiba or a TV specialist recommended from Toshiba and not FS so no worries.

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Re: Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« Reply #6 on: Monday, January 22, 2007, 12:58:43 AM »
Yeah, it's a lot like that actually. 


But yeah, I think a lot of it varies from store to store.  Best Buy and Future Shop are one and the same now, but they're run a bit differently.  Future Shop is a bit more service oriented, while Best Buy is more of a big store you can just walk into and buy shit.  Their staff doesn't get commission as far as I know and aren't paid as well.  They're basically there to just tell you whatever specs they've memorized.  The principle is that Future Shop is the 'higher end' store, where the sales people can actually tell you shit and help you out.  The problem is that the salesmen suck for the most part.  They're still only really concerned about getting you out of the store asap so they can make their commission, and they're obviously going to try to push whatever product has the most mark up on it or has a special bonus attached to the sale for them...regardless of if it's what you need or if it's the best available.

I think they did a bit of a restructuring a few years ago because then they started moving in new types of sales people that are like half on commission.  They make a shit wage and might get commission from selling the extended warranties.  You'd think you could trust them a bit more, but chances are they know a little less because they're already looking for another job, and the management is all over their balls trying to get them to move more shit they can sell warranties on.  They're seriously all over them....constantly.  It doesn't matter how many they sold...they could sell more, and if they do they get a promotion to do the exact same job but maybe make commission.

Well, that's what customer service reps are around for right?  To make sure that there is someone out there that's only concern is customer satisfaction.  Yeah, they're too busy dealing with getting a return, filing it, and then getting whatever defective shitty mp3 player someone got suckered into buying out of the transfer station in the back and returning it to whatever customer brought that back the week before. They can't help you with shit.

Management?  Prime concern is that they're selling warranties and moving units.  What's the highest mark up on?  Usually cables and stuff like that, but also shitty monitors, mp3 players, and stereos.  They're worried about moving these things and selling more warranties, so that their store can post bigger numbers, while their managers are worried about the same so that their region can post bigger numbers.

Any actual customer service you see from the corporate standpoint at that level is more or less a farce.  These people all have so much artificial pressure placed on them that they think they've got to move this shit or they're going to starve.  It's like they've created this weird atmosphere where they've got these people acting a bit like animals.  Sure, the moral thing to do would be to help you out as much as possible and maybe even not sell you this shitty product....but there's 2 seconds left on the clock and it's desperation time.  They can't fucking help you because that's 10 min that could be spent selling a warranty.

In that box store you walk into they only care about moving units, posting numbers, and selling warranties.  That's it.  Any illusion you get of customer service or customer concern is just to facilitate the corporate goal through a.) a positive public image, and b.) consumer loyalty.  Big deal, this is a corporation and it exists for one reason - to make money.   The difference is that they don't seem to realize or care that their business philosophy and corporate structuring has a negative impact on customer satisfaction and employee satisfaction (less important, but that in itself also has a negative impact on customer satisfaction).  Their customer loyalty would be through the roof if the spent half the time they spend worrying about warranties and spent it thinking about actual customer service.             


I'm not saying don't shop there or anything like that, I've never had a problem and a lot of the times I'm sure it works out well.  The only thing is that the actual corporate stance on customer service is so vague it's almost non-existent.  That basically leads to situations like this where a combination of shitty managers and employees can lead to nightmares like this and you don't really have anywhere to turn to unless you're motivated enough to track down the highest executive in the company you can contact and hope that they actually give a shit.  And that's probably not going to change until whatever retards in charge of PR at these companies realize that this isn't like when they graduated in 1988 - pissed off people can get their fucking stories out to the public in the blink of an eye and something will have to be done to increase response time and satisfaction in cases like this. 

If this kind of thing ever happens to you, you basically do what this guy did - you write letters, you CC the BBB, whatever body regulates trade in your area, and the media, and you let them know that this story is out there.  For a business like this there is nothing worse than bad press and negative word of mouth, and they'll rectify the problem.

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Re: Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« Reply #7 on: Monday, January 22, 2007, 01:21:41 AM »
The people at Best Buy are annoying. Its gotten better, now they ask if I need help, I say no and they bugger off. Before that, I'd say no and they'd then push shit on me to buy. "Well we've got this CD scratch remover!" Well, great...but I didnt ask for a fucking scratch remover, did I? They just wouldn't let it go. "No? Well we're having a sale on CD cases." Seriously, this was a conversation I had.

On a different note (and store), my mom bought a heating pad because she hurt her shoulder. The thing was defective so they returned it to the store. My parents know better so they write on the box "DEFECTIVE" and even on the product itself. Even so, they go back to the store today to get something else...and that box is sitting back on the shelf to be sold to someone else.

Companies just don't seem to care anymore.

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Re: Poor bastard, his 61'' TV and Best Buy.
« Reply #8 on: Monday, January 22, 2007, 02:02:35 AM »
Giant superstores never care, but we all jump up and down and embrace them for the convenience.  It's really quite stupid of us.  We should have refused them at every turn since they began and burned down whatever had been built, but we went, shopped, and now they hold all the cards and can get away with not giving a shit.

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