Topic: I didn't know Jobs was a fool.

[Pugnate]

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/02/news/companies/elkind_jobs.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes

Yet to the horror of the tiny circle of intimates in whom he'd confided, Jobs was considering not having the surgery at all. A Buddhist and vegetarian, the Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) CEO was skeptical of mainstream medicine. Jobs decided to employ alternative methods to treat his pancreatic cancer, hoping to avoid the operation through a special diet - a course of action that hasn't been disclosed until now.

[Cobra951]

It seems he dodged that Darwin award.  Time will tell for sure.

[Antares]

Seriously.  Nothing like throwing away an empire for no reason other than a pointless mistrust in the medical establishment.

[Ghandi]

I don't blame him. Medicine is expensive these days.

[Cobra951]

True.  Even he couldn't afford an operation if he let his insurance premiums lapse.

[gpw11]

OMG! HE ONLY MAKES $1 A YEAR YOU FOOLS!  HE OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T AFFORD IT!!!

But to be perfectly honest, my opinion of people deciding not to partake in medical treatment for terminal illness is a bit mixed.  It's really easy to say that they're just idiots, but there's a bit more to it.  Beyond that, I'd be willing to bet that with all the secrecy behind this there is a good chance that they got his reason for initially deciding against treatment wrong or they just filled in the blanks themselves. 

[Ghandi]

OMG! HE ONLY MAKES $1 A YEAR YOU FOOLS!  HE OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T AFFORD IT!!!

/joke

When it comes to cut-and-dry issues like removing a tumor, it's pretty easy which medical option to go with. But with less life and death matters, alternative remedies can work even better than a pill. Depressed? Try exercising instead of going to your doctor for an anti-depressant.

[gpw11]

For most people, but if you're some dead-beat dad, wife-beating, buddhist, you might be a bit put off by a Whipple procedure.

[WindAndConfusion]

When it comes to cut-and-dry issues like removing a tumor, it's pretty easy which medical option to go with. But with less life and death matters, alternative remedies can work even better than a pill. Depressed? Try exercising instead of going to your doctor for an anti-depressant.

Exercise is not an alternative treatment. "Alternative" is a newage buzzword for "expensive treatments that provably don't work."

[Cobra951]

Some things really are cut and dried.  If you get appendicitis, your choices are a doctor, and death.  Inaction, chanting, herbs, meditation, all fall under the death choice.  If an illness truly is terminal, meaning you will die from it regardless of what anyone tries to do, then you have reasonable options.  You may choose to die full of tubes and drugs in a hospital, or in your own bed surrounded by your family and cherished environment, or having a last fling in Maui.  The end result doesn't change, only how you get there.

[Ghandi]

Exercise is not an alternative treatment. "Alternative" is a newage buzzword for "expensive treatments that provably don't work."

I don't understand. Can you use smaller words?

[WindAndConfusion]

It's simple, really. Treatments are called "alternative" by virtue of being outside the mainstream medical community; and they are outside the medical community because they are demonstrably ineffective.

PS, Ghandi is a fuckwit.

[Quemaqua]

Now explain it using words without the letter "e".  You know, to make it challenging.

[Ghandi]

It's simple, really. Treatments are called "alternative" by virtue of being outside the mainstream medical community; and they are outside the medical community because they are demonstrably ineffective.

PS, Ghandi is a fuckwit.

sry need graphs plz

[WindAndConfusion]

[Ghandi]

Fuck yeah. It's good to be #1.