Topic: Most Complicated Game You've Ever Played?

[nickclone]

When you think of some of the most complicated or complex games you've ever played, which ones come to mind? I have two games that have several hours of a learning curve, both ironically handheld games.

1. I like card battling games, well I like to try to play card battling games. They're kind of confusing, but the Yu-gi-oh card games have the most convoluted rules I've ever experienced. I'm sure playing the previous games help, but those are just as confusing. Also add that I haven't seen the show in about ten years and the tutorial is just text and not hands on makes everything more intricate and frustrating. I did what I guess you can call "playing" for an hour before I gave up the game.

2. I just started playing a game called Generation of Chaos and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing. I have no manual and there is absolutely no in game tutorial. I guess so many people were confused and complaining that the developer had to release a "mini guide" to help people understand the basics of the game. I just got the "mini guide" and its an 80 page pdf file...all of it just about the basics...the basics! I always read the manual before I play the game, but it's always a tradition that I do for fun, this is a necessity.

I'm done ranting, I'm only on page four of the guide...back to work.

[Pugnate]

Life.

[nickclone]

I'm snowed in, haven't left the house in days.

[PyroMenace]

Women.

[idolminds]

Doom: The Boardgame and Dungeoneer. They aren't really hard, but getting to the point where you're not constantly reading the rulebook takes a bit.

I guess the various Civilization games can be complicated. Lots to keep track of.

Oh, I know. Solium Infernum. Supposed to be great but I grabbed the demo and have no fucking clue how to play.

[Xessive]

Battlecruiser 3000. Could not comprehend it.

I'd also add Monster Hunter Freedom Unite since it's an "unnecessarily complicated" kind of game. The complicated interface and game mechanics don't add depth, they just make the game frustrating.

[W7RE]

I used to play the Battletech card game, which was much more complicated than any other card game I've ever tried. Like in magic you have your deck, your resources, and your play field. In Battletech you have your stockpile/hp (your deck), resources, midfield, front defenses, stockpile defense cards, construction yard, and I don't even remember what else. After playing Battletech, Magic always seemed so simple to me.

As far as video games, probably MMOs. Yea you can play them casually and not even scratch the surface, but there's so much shit if you really get into it. In WoW for example, there's detailed specs and arguments to back them for every class, with at least 1 spec each for pvp and pve, and slight variations on dps/heal rotations that can drastically change your results. Every boss in the game has it's own unique strategy you need to memorize and practice, there are numerous sets of dailies to find and figure out to grind reputations. There's just so much shit in any decent MMO.

I'm sure there are others that are more complicated up front that I've played. MMOs just have so much shit that I'd say they're pretty complicated if you get into all aspects of the game.

[idolminds]

MMOs are complicated even when played casually. WoW just happens to do a great job of slowly ramping up to that complexity so you don't really know you're getting into it. I saw a screenshot with like a million icons for all these spells and abilities that you can use at any time and though "Man, who could play that?" Then I remembered that I used to and had set up my screen in a similar way, and I might have been "hardcore" in that I played a lot but I rarely did PvP and never raided or anything like that. I ran around and did quests.

I also agree with X on Monster Hunter Freedom Unite. Its a shame since it seems like such an awesome game to get into, but theres this wall in your way. The game really suffers just by being on the PSP. If you could throw camera control on a 2nd analog stick and then have the dpad directions open for functions then it would be a hell of a lot easier to get into.

[iPPi]

I find trading card games to be somewhat complicated as the wording sometimes appear to conflict each other and the order of actions tend to be an area of dispute at times as well.

For video games, in recent memory I think one of the most complicated games I've played was Ikaruga.  The game was quite simple in design, but executing many sections properly was nearly impossible.

[Quemaqua]

I would say X2 is probably the most complicated game in general as far as commands and sheer amount of shit you can do.  ArmA II ranks fairly high on the list as well.  I'm sure I could think of other stuff, but that would take some thought.  Those spring to mind.

[gpw11]

Pyro's Women.

[Pugnate]

hahha

[PyroMenace]

If you knew Pug... if you actually knew, you wouldn't be laughing.