Topic: IE 7.0 out today on Windows Update

[scottws]

Looks like Microsoft is pushing out IE 7.0 on Windows update.  It just notified me it was going to install it now.  I let it.  Doesn't mean I'll be using it.

[iPPi]

IE7 is supposed to be very good.  I haven't used it though, but I know a couple people who prefer it over Firefox now.

[sirean_syan]

I actually got the notification a couple days ago.

I just installed it. Firefox is still my default browser, IE is just my YTMND and random stuff machine.

[scottws]

I have no intention of leaving Firefox.  I pretty much hate Microsoft and use alternative products were I can.  The only thing I willingly use right now is Windows XP, and even then only because I can't find a good Dreamweaver equivalent for the GNOME interface on Linux (apparently there is one for KDE, but I don't use that).

[scottws]

I see MS has not only copied tabs from Firefox, but copied its handling of large image resizing as well.

That is definately a welcome change in IE though. IE6's handling, where you had to move the cursor off the image and then back on, then hover, then click the box in the lower right was crap.  Firefox's/IE7's simple click-on-the-image method is superior.

[idolminds]

Man...Windows Update...that takes me back. I haven't used that in years.

[sirean_syan]

As far as I've played with it, the top menus are less customizable. I can't seem to find an option to have the usual "File - Edit - View ... ect" menu bar above the main address bar. Also, tabbed browsing always has a tab bar there even if you only have one page open and the tab bar is fairly large making this pretty annoying. Granted I only took a quick look through the options, but if the ability to change these things is there, it's not easy to find.

So, I just turned off tabbed browsing to remove the bar. It's not like I ever look at more than a single page at a time with IE.

[ren]

You really should use it to get the security updates. unless you're updating manually or something.

[idolminds]

I dont update anything. Windows update blows...gotta use IE and then it'll download all these updates and I have no damn clue how big they are and how much longer it'll take to install. Last time I used it I let it run overnight and it still wasnt done by morning. Screw that, cancel update and never did it again.

[Cools]

Where should I start... oh wait: they copied a bunch of now standard features from the dozens of better browsers, but did almost nothing about IE's CSS rendering engine so for the most part, web developers are still screwed when trying to build standards compliant sites that look identical on all modern browsers. Thanks a lot!

*hugs his Mac*

[ren]

automatic updater tells you the filesize (I think it does) and doesn't use IE. and you can pick which ones you want, which should be very useful with 56k. I set mine to inform me but not update or install itself, so then I can do it at my own convenience.

[Quemaqua]

*kicks Cools's Mac in the nuts*

But yeah, IE7 is shit.  I've been using it at work and it's... bleh.  No idea why anybody continues to use it.

[WindAndConfusion]

Where should I start... oh wait: they copied a bunch of now standard features from the dozens of better browsers, but did almost nothing about IE's CSS rendering engine so for the most part, web developers are still screwed when trying to build standards compliant sites that look identical on all modern browsers. Thanks a lot!

Does it finally fully implement PNG transparency?

*hugs his Mac*

*Went back to Apple-only after the Intel switch*