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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vertmintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 06:36:25 AM »
I can report that it is fuuuun! ;D

I played in the closed beta last week and the full game was released on 23/10/2015. It keeps the fun aspects of L4D and it adds a loot system, which frankly needs a lot of tweaking but it's still a blast.

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vertmintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 06:53:43 AM »
My concern - it's a FatShark game. They're definitely not that great w/ keeping on supporting their games & gamers don't seem to stick around for long for co-op w/ those games.
Not like I played Krater for co-op, though. I just don't like that one of their patches broke my damn saves.

Maybe, this'll be the one that gets so much interest, they won't abandon it fast.

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 10:10:04 AM »
Oh wait, it's actually out? That game looked pretty baller. I'm a little bummed that I can't PLAY as a little rat dude in a gas mask, but still.

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 02:21:09 PM »
Oh wait, it's actually out?
Yep, it's out. :)

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I'm a little bummed that I can't PLAY as a little rat dude in a gas mask, but still.
I like your idea and hope that becomes DLC here; or you actually develop a game w/ playable rat-dudes in gas-masks. :)

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #8 on: Monday, November 09, 2015, 07:19:26 PM »
So I love this game. Love love love it. It's everything that was great about the L4D formula without everything that sucked so much balls about it. I liked the idea of L4D a lot, and really had fun with it at first, but man did it get old. After we finished playing it the first time, like I just never wanted to touch it again. I tried L4D2, but I really didn't care for it, and didn't feel it was in any way a proper sequel. The gameplay just didn't do enough to distinguish itself, felt real samey all the time.

Vermintide manages to deal with this in a variety of ways, which I'm sure are all well-documented now for anyone who cares, but my own two cents:

* More and better content, or at least this is how it seems from everything I've watched and read. I'm a bit early yet, but the levels I've tried have felt fairly different.
* Way, way better and more satisfying combat. The melee has real heft to it, and the weapons feel very different—the stabby elf knives are quick and smooth, slicing quickly and without resistance, and the dwarf's axes feel like they basically get stuck in enemies when you hit them, a real chunky feeling. The ranged weapons too do great with differentiating themselves. The soldier's big blunderbuss has great weight to it, and the elf's bow feels very light and quick. Even the dwarf's crossbow feels substantially different from the elf's bow.
* Characters! They all feel quite different, in part because of the combat stuff mentioned above, but also like ... the dwarf is actually super short. Your camera will be low. The elf is taller. And the witch hunter is even taller. I thought I noticed this so actually went and compared against a railing in the inn with each one. I thought maybe just the dwarf would be short and everyone else would be the same, but not the case. Which is quite cool, and a nice change from L4D, where each player was more or less identical. I also hated all the L4D characters for the most part, and the personalities of the Vermintide characters are a bit more entertaining.
* Giant gibbering ratmen are better than zombies. Seriously. The zombies in L4D are very one-note, and these rat dudes have a lot of personality, and attack with different weapons, etc. The special monster types are almost directly grabbed from L4D, like honestly to a fault, but I feel like they really do work better here.
* Goals! It's nice to have the loot and experience systems to kinda drive you on. That progression is very important to a game like this, and I think it works really, really well here.

Anyway, if you've been on the fence about this or curious, definitely give it a try.

I will caution you that the game still has bugs. In my first 4 matches, 3 of them ended due to bugs. Two that were in-game nonsense, and one that was a CTD. I've had another 2 CTDs since but nothing else gameplay-wise. The CTDs MAY be related to my videocard or something, I don't know. This is a brand-new PC and I literally have played no other games on it yet, so I don't know what's up exactly. The game reported that my card's driver stopped working. Will report back after more playtime.

But yeah, this game is awesome.

EDIT - I'd more or less agree with that PC Gamer review. I do hope Fatshark just uses this as a launching platform to kind of expand into newer and more interesting territory. But as it stands, this is the game that I always wished L4D was, so I'm not at all bothered by some of what was stolen from it. If you played a fuckload of L4D, you might feel differently, but not necessarily. The combat and characters being so different certainly does a ton to set this apart.

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #9 on: Monday, November 09, 2015, 07:55:29 PM »
Awesome to hear, Que.
So, I'm guessing you have your new rig up and running now, since you're playing this?
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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #10 on: Monday, November 09, 2015, 08:36:08 PM »
Yep. Popped everything up to Extreme settings and it ran like a dream.  :-*

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #11 on: Monday, November 09, 2015, 08:39:22 PM »
Yep. Popped everything up to Extreme settings and it ran like a dream.  :-*

Awesome! :)

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 01:08:12 PM »
Nice!

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 03:58:00 PM »
The driver thing is definitely an issue with this game and not all games, but I suspect has to do with my video card. It's extremely annoying. I was just able to play for like 2 hours without interruption, but then it crashed ... and sometimes I go in for 5 minutes and it does it. I've determined it doesn't do it with any other games, at least not so far. Not sure what the problem is.

EDIT-Turning the settings down a notch stopped the crash. A bit annoying, as the game doesn't look as good, and I was having zero performance problems at Extreme, but at least now I can play the damned thing consistently. At least it seems so. I played a good couple hours tonight and it was fine.

Continues to be a great game, and the loot hook is enough to keep me going back. Hope some more of you pick it up so we can play.
« Last Edit: Saturday, November 21, 2015, 03:08:18 AM by Quemaqua »

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> L4D-like Co-Op game w/ melee-focus + rats
« Reply #14 on: Friday, May 27, 2016, 03:03:05 AM »
In case you want to give this a shot on the PC, Vermintide has a Free Weekend thing in progress happening on Steam. :)
Bluesnews - Free Weekend Trial in progress on Steam until Sunday (05-28-2016).

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> Free Weekend on Steam (5-26 to 5-28)
« Reply #15 on: Saturday, May 28, 2016, 05:15:12 PM »
So, I've got a total of approx. 3 hours with this, more or less, so far on this Free Weekend on Steam.

This is a blast. Really digging this Steam Free Weekend. It's basically Left 4 Dead (up to 4 player Co-Op with Linear Missions where the player-characters are constantly bantering), but instead with both a melee-combat focus, rats as the main enemies, and the Warhammer license attached.


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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> Free Weekend on Steam (5-26 to 5-28)
« Reply #16 on: Saturday, November 05, 2016, 04:19:45 PM »
Another free weekend coming up

And also a contest for a free copy

Wish more OW folks had picked this up. Would be fun to play together. Though that would take away from Overwatch time ...

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> Free Weekend on Steam (5-26 to 5-28)
« Reply #17 on: Sunday, November 06, 2016, 06:26:04 AM »
Another free weekend coming up

And also a contest for a free copy

Wish more OW folks had picked this up. Would be fun to play together. Though that would take away from Overwatch time ...

And I wish this game would get cheaper. :P

This game's basically Left 4 Dead turned into Left 4 Rats with some looter-shooter/looter-melee game elements.

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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> Free Weekend on Steam (5-26 to 5-28)
« Reply #18 on: Sunday, November 06, 2016, 10:23:55 AM »
Game is $15 on sale right now during the weekend. It's not expensive.

And calling it L4D with rats is selling it short. It does use that as a base, but this is a vastly better game than L4D ever was. Frankly, I think L4D is shit, and I loved the time I spent with Vermintide.

EDIT - DLC is also on sale. There's a 3-map DLC pack with a few new weapons and stuff that's on sale for $4.49. I put 20 hours into the stock game, and it had a few free DLCs if I remember right, so probably worth it if you like the game. Gonna reinstall this, I think.
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Re: Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide -> Free Weekend on Steam (5-26 to 5-28)
« Reply #19 on: Sunday, November 06, 2016, 07:49:35 PM »
Game is $15 on sale right now during the weekend. It's not expensive.

And calling it L4D with rats is selling it short. It does use that as a base, but this is a vastly better game than L4D ever was. Frankly, I think L4D is shit, and I loved the time I spent with Vermintide.

EDIT - DLC is also on sale. There's a 3-map DLC pack with a few new weapons and stuff that's on sale for $4.49. I put 20 hours into the stock game, and it had a few free DLCs if I remember right, so probably worth it if you like the game. Gonna reinstall this, I think.

I have to be ultra-choosy w/ what games I'm going to drop certain amounts of $ on. Reason being - well, I buy lots of games. TONS of games. Most of them, I buy dirt-cheap at 75% off or in Bundles. If I'm going to spend decent $ on a game, it better be something I am going to get lots of mileage out of - i.e. see Fallout 4.

Vermintide is only 50% off and has DLC - so, I think I'll wait until it gets cheaper or aim for a better package. For me, the better deal would be to "Complete The Pack" w/ the FatShark Bundle at 70% off (to namely get Vermintide + DLC's...), since I already own a decent amount of their stuff. Their other stuff I'm missing isn't really hitting me at that price (Hamilton game + DLC's), so...eh, skip, for now.

I played A LOT of L4D1+2, back in the day - loved that game. Vermintide reminds me a lot of L4D1+2, but with a few twists + an evolution on that formula. Vermintide's a linear 4-player coop-based first-person action game; where you kill rats instead of zombies; with a level-up process (evolution); and some looter-shooter/looter-melee game elements (evolution); and the missions here (in structure) seem + feel more varied.