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The Book Thread - was: "Holy crapmonkeys."
« on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 07:35:56 PM »



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Dear Customer,
    I attach some pictures.  If you buy from us directly, the total cost (including airmail printed rate to the USA) would be US$137.65   But I suggest you look again at Alibris and see what they would charge for the books and shipping - they have regular deliveries from the UK and their price might be cheaper.
    If you do buy directly, we accept credit card payment - MC or Visa.  Please in any case confirm the order and method of payment by e-mail. Meanwhile we will reserve the books for you.
    Yours sincerely, J. A.
Abbey Antiquarian Books, 119 Northwick Business Centre, Blockley, GL56 9RF, UK

It looks like I'm actually about to own first editions of both Sylvie and Bruno books by Lewis Carroll.  I'm sure that approximately zero of you actually realize how exciting this is for me, but I had to share anyway.  And this seems to be a great price.  I've seen the books go for multiple hundreds apiece, or even as much as $7,000 for actual signed copies.  But you can find them cheaper if you look, and obviously the condition of the books comes into play.  But these seem very good overall.  Some vents to the cloth, worn tips, bubbling to the covers, and some marks & spine fading, but they appear to be in good condition otherwise, and I've seen other pairings of the books go for a bit more with more serious binding problems.  So this seems very good.

I'm going to go pass out from happiness now.

For information's sake, the first book was published in 1889, and the second was published in 1893, both by Macmillan, London.
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Re: Holy crapmonkeys.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 07:55:55 PM »
If anyone wants to read it, Project Gutenberg to the rescue.

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Re: Holy crapmonkeys.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 09:11:21 PM »
I've never seen that site before, idol.  That's pretty sweet.  I'd really like to find an audio recording of the books somewhere, but that's asking an awful lot for something this obscure.

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Re: Holy crapmonkeys.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 09:31:41 PM »
Project Gutenberg has audio as well. The had some computer-read books, but those are really hard to listen to ("I AM ROBOT").

With volunteers they have a nice list of human read audio books. Unfortunately so far they only have Alice in Wonderland by Carroll.

So, back on topic. Why are these books so important to you? I had never heard of them before.

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Re: Holy crapmonkeys.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 09:39:20 PM »
My favorite part of this post?

"PRICE THREE HALF-CROWNS"

How cool is that?

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Re: Holy crapmonkeys.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 09:50:01 PM »
Yeah, Sy.  Sometimes history is awesome.

Anyway, it's all kind of a long story, really.  Lewis Carroll has become something of a "hobby" for me.  For a large portion of my life I thought he was just some weirdo, having never truly studied him in any meaningful way.  I heard he was a pedophile, a drug addict, a lunatic... all sorts of stuff.  But I'd never really paid much attention or bothered to look for myself.  I'd read the Alice stories, but that was about it.  Much later, when I was working for United Airlines before the whole 9/11 thing happened, I decided to read a biography on him.  I picked up this book by Morten Cohen, read it in about two days, and for some reason just became totally fascinated by the man, Charles Lutwidge Dodgson being his real name.  I discovered a great deal more of his writing, a lot of which was stuff I enjoyed a lot more than I'd have expected to, and while he's a really interesting man by any standard, he is even more so when you've got a total misconception of him from the start.  I began to read more of his stuff, to look into some of his other work (he was an Oxford don who did a lot of work with mathematics, and he was also one of the earlier people to do photography really worthy of note -- I have a book of that as well), and began to get a lot more books about him.  I have a pretty big collection now.

Anyway, this story is pretty much his swan song.  These two books are more or less the last significant thing he wrote, and as someone who identifies with him a lot on a lot of levels (which is odd in many ways, too, being that he loved children so much and I like to throw them on the BBQ), the books are amazing because there's just so much of *him* in them.  He's more in those two books than most of his other work, as he sort of wrote "himself" in as a character.  This was when he was getting older and the works are very personal because of it, contrasting the youth of the children and younger adult characters with his own advancing age, so finally getting around to reading them was just a joy for me after I'd spent so much time learning about him.  It was almost like getting to meet someone after sending letters to them for a while.  Something like that.  Anyway, I really liked the books on top of that and they demonstrate a lot of the odd things I share with him in terms of life philosophy and religion (though there is much I feel he was wrong about), and it deals with some concepts I've explored in my own writing and music, at least thematically, sometimes literally.  All in all, I just fell in love with the books and have been hoping to own a first edition of each for some time.  It seems I'm going to get the chance after all.

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Re: Holy crapmonkeys.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 11:04:46 PM »
Those are really cool.  I wouldn't mind owning those myself.  I remember always drooling over one of my friends first editions of Bram Stoker's Dracula (which was published in 1897 I think) and always bugged him about selling it to me.  That biography on Lewis Carroll looks interesting I will have to see if I can find that at the library or at the local bookstore.  I've been meaning to read more of Carroll's stuff and I probably will now that I finished up some Neil Gaiman books I've been meaning to read.

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Re: The Book Thread - was: "Holy crapmonkeys."
« Reply #7 on: Thursday, December 28, 2006, 08:48:40 AM »
I heartily recommend the biography.  It's fairly sympathetic, but not overly so, and while it's a little bit on the older side now and some new theories about the guy have surfaced, nothing has yet replaced it as the more or less definitive word (or as close as we can really get without further information coming to light).  My first was a paperback edition and I've since picked up a nice hardback as well.  I think my sister has one of them.  I should stop loaning her books, she never has time to read them...

And in other news... LibriVox seems like a pretty cool place.  I guess they're responsible for a lot of the human-read audio books listed at Project Gutenberg, and I'm hoping to find some cool stuff to download and listen to at work there.  It's all readings of public domain books that can be hosted online for free.  I'm very much thinking of either starting a Sylvie and Bruno project or recording one myself and submitting it.

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