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Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 12:17:21 AM »
So 300 is almost here, March 9th to be exact.  I am planning on seeing this as soon as I can after that date, shooting for the 14th.  Who else is going to see this?  The style of the movie looks fucking awesome.  I love the graphic novel and the few people who have seen early screenings of it say that it doesn't stray too far from Miller's work at all.  I'm glad to see another one of Miller's comics faithfully adapted to the big screen(hopefully at least).

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 12:22:08 AM »
Definitely sold for this movie.  Gonna see it as soon as I can...

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 12:26:06 AM »
Absolutely.  Nothing but impressed.  I'm looking to see it ASAP.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #3 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 12:33:27 AM »
Also everyone should read the graphic novel if they can get a hold of it(it will probably be reprinted in masses like Sin City was after the movie), the art is very similar to Sin City but with more color and the writing is just as good.
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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #4 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 12:42:06 AM »
I've missed a lot of movies in theaters recently, so I'm going to try catch this one.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 12:44:17 AM »
Been following this for a while on IGN Filmforce. Looks amazing.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #6 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 01:34:20 AM »
I'm thinking I need to so to San Francisco openning night and see the thing on an IMAX screen. Hopefully Que will be my chaperone.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 06:23:52 AM »
It looks awesome.  I really want to see it but Jennie is adverse, saying it looks like the whole movie is in slow-motion based on the trailer.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #8 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 07:31:55 AM »
I'm thinking I need to so to San Francisco openning night and see the thing on an IMAX screen. Hopefully Que will be my chaperone.

I'm so there.

And scott, the violence is definitely supposed to be stylized.  Just how so I don't really know.  But the dramatic stuff looks really good aside from all that which has to do with a great deal of my excitement.  The movie as a whole looks really interesting and well-acted.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #9 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 03:20:08 PM »
Also everyone should read the graphic novel if they can get a hold of it(it will probably be reprinted in masses like Sin City was after the movie), the art is very similar to Sin City but with more color and the writing is just as good.

I discovered that "The 300" is easily "available" right now.  I'll read what I "got" tonight sometime.

Edit:  I downloaded the HD trailers from Xbox Live a couple of nights ago.  That movie looks amazing.  I hope the whole thing lives up to the look.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #10 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 05:32:36 PM »
It looks awesome.  I really want to see it but Jennie is adverse, saying it looks like the whole movie is in slow-motion based on the trailer.

I have yet to speak with a single female that doesn't have some kind of emotional aversion to the movie....


Anyway I'll be there opening night if possible.  I haven't been this excited about a movie in a long time.

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 06:13:53 PM »
I can't wait. It looks really good. I loved the graphic novel.

This spring looks like the ultimate in "guy" movies. We've got 300, Black Snake Moan, Zodiac, Hot Fuzz, Grindhouse, who knows what else is coming?

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 08:27:43 PM »
I have yet to speak with a single female that doesn't have some kind of emotional aversion to the movie....


Anyway I'll be there opening night if possible.  I haven't been this excited about a movie in a long time.

I know one....and suprisingly enough she's the last I'd think would be into it.

Anyways, I got the graphic novel a while ago - mainly due to my tendency to read a lot of fiction based in or on  classical Greece or Rome. Big fan, and it's cool seeing how a lot of the scenes in the trailer seem to be straight shots of some of the panels in the comic.  I probably won't see it opening weekend, but I'll see it none the less.....in Imax. 

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« Reply #13 on: Thursday, March 01, 2007, 09:35:57 PM »
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I know one....and suprisingly enough she's the last I'd think would be into it.

Maybe this is all a ruse so that she can get you.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, March 06, 2007, 10:42:54 AM »
So I went back and read the comic again (and finished it, since I'd never had all of it at once before, just in pieces), and I'm really impressed with how much stuff from the trailers and still photos seems to match up with the comic.  I'm not sure if it's quite shot for shot, but it seems great from where I'm sitting.  I absolutely can't wait for the movie now.

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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, March 06, 2007, 10:21:50 PM »
I don't think Frank Miller would settle for anything less than a faithful adaption, and after Sin City I'm sure he got exactly what he wanted.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, March 06, 2007, 11:55:11 PM »
I was a little confused at seeing some "freaks" in the Persian army (not Ephialtes), like some dude with swords instead of arms, so I find myself wondering if he added those in himself just for the movie or if some guy just decided they needed more crazy shit in there.  I'd be a little worried about it if it weren't for the fact that so much of what I've seen was dead-on and that so many people who've already seen it said it was really faithful.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, March 07, 2007, 11:37:19 PM »
Woo!  Just bought my ticket to the opening midnight showing, hopefully the movie kicks ass.

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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, March 07, 2007, 11:42:37 PM »
I found out my local theater is playing it next week. I wont go opening night, but Monday or Tuesday sounds good.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #19 on: Thursday, March 08, 2007, 01:41:56 AM »
We'll be going late on Friday night.  I'm juiced.  I hope Julia digs it.  I want her to read the comic first because I think she'll like that better.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #20 on: Thursday, March 08, 2007, 11:34:14 PM »
Looks like Im going Sunday.

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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, March 08, 2007, 11:48:41 PM »
If I can scrape enough time, I'll probably see it this weekend, but it's the iron ring ceremony and the graduation banquet this weekend, so lots of partying and getting drunk planned.  :)

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« Reply #22 on: Friday, March 09, 2007, 03:04:23 AM »
Holy shit, the movie was amazing, one of the best action movies I've seen in a long time, I would like to go and see it again before it leaves theaters.  Everyone needs to see this.

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« Reply #23 on: Friday, March 09, 2007, 08:38:31 AM »
Greatest movie ever made. Period.

SPARTANS! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION?!?!

HU!!! HU!!! HU!!!

Fucking aye, that was so good. I couldn't go to sleep last night because I was so excited. I haven't felt like that after seeing a movie in a very long time.

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« Reply #24 on: Friday, March 09, 2007, 10:52:28 PM »
The movie was good. But I was kind of let down. The battles were a little too anti-climatic. The voice over got in the way of some of the amped up battles and music, some of the actors were less than great. In fact, a lot of the dialog fell flat. There was too much ramping (slow down/speed up effect) that made some of the best action scenes seem like a bad music video. I kind of wish a better director could have been given the project. It just wasn't up to the quality of film making that was displayed in Sin City. I liked the movie, but it let me down in a lot of ways. I have to say it's nowhere near "the greatest movie ever made". Not even the best film of the past few years.

Overall I left (along with two of my friends, one male, one female) with the sense that yeah it was cool to look at ... but it was really detached feeling. In Sin City, and other countless great action films, I felt connected to the characters. The violence felt alive and real... here it just felt like a slow-mo video game cinematic.

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday, March 10, 2007, 05:56:00 AM »
Well I tried to convince Jennie last night to go see it with me and some friends.  The g/f's pretty much nixxed that idea.

Though I think it will be funny to tell Jennie what ender said, that the whole movie is slow-motion.  Because that's what she thought it was based on the trailer.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #26 on: Saturday, March 10, 2007, 10:47:52 AM »
I'm somewhere in between on the issue.  I think it was one of the greatest action movies, but I did think the effects were overused.  Despite that, you could really tell that they had long stretches of action that weren't chopped up, which I remember hearing about in a few interviews.  The action stuff, even if over-effected, was still really impressive.  I wish they'd have messed with it a little less, but I was still smiling sadistically during half of it.

I'll agree that some of the acting was a bit less than I'd hoped, but that isn't to say I was entirely disappointed.  I thought the Queen did a great job, and Butler as Leonidas was *fucking perfect*.  They nailed that role dead on.  It was like he stepped straight out of the comic.  He was marvelous, I thought.

Overall I thought it was great, and my main issues were small ones.  Little niggles that bugged me a bit.  There was a gratuitous overuse of beheading that I thought was cheesy, and I hated the whole scene where the
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  Some of the sexy stuff I thought was a little bit too thick, although I did think they handled the King/Queen relationship nicely.  You really got a sense of deep emotional attachment and love from them, and the sex scene was pretty tasteful.  It was just long enough that it felt like it was trying too hard.  Same with the Ephors.  They were just... a bit much.  The whole licking the Oracle thing and all that.  It was just trying too hard.

So yeah, overall I was impressed and I thought the movie was cool, and it was fucking *amazing* to watch on the IMAX screen.  It was practically built for it.  But I still much prefer the comic to the movie for the love of the comic's simplicity.  The movie, while faithfully capturing a lot of it, just had too much in it.  The story is so simple and the movie just felt like it was too rich for it's own good.  A lot of the beauty and drama of the story was crushed under the weight of the content, because the comic, while epic and heavy in a lot of regards, is very light overall.  It flows differently, moves with more grace, and the way it's painted changes the way its read.  Admittedly, a lot of that would be harder to capture in a movie than something like, say, Sin City, so this turned out probably about like I expected with a couple exceptions.  I'll agree with Ender that a better director would have been able to circumvent more of the problems, though.

Still, it was worth the money.  I had a good time.  Even some of the additions to the story weren't bad.  The Queen stuff was pretty good for the most part, and I didn't even mind the way they made the Persians a bit more monstrous.  It was a good movie... just not perfect.  Still one of the better action movies I've seen in a long time, and like I said, I think a lot of that counts for just how well the action was done.  Yes, there was too much ramping and some of the effects were overkill in general, but despite all that you could clearly see down to the bottom... you could look past it and get a good, clear look at how well done the foundation for all the action was.  On that level, I'm *still* really impressed.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #27 on: Saturday, March 10, 2007, 01:45:14 PM »
I think my main problem was the actress that played the queen, and the guy who played Theron. They just had little to no hold on the characters... it was kind of like bad soap opera acting. Also, the vocal modulation used on Xerxes was laughable, even though I thought they did a tremendous job on him visually. I dunno, it just felt really detached and lifeless to me in everything except some of the battles. I hate to say that, because I liked the visuals a lot... just somehow it didn't seem full of life to me. Its kind of how I felt about The Science of Sleep last year... great visuals, nothing to hold on to.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #28 on: Saturday, March 10, 2007, 01:59:19 PM »
Theron didn't do anything for me, but I thought the Queen was good.  Was hard to get a feel for her either way given that her character was all but nonexistent in the comic.  Same with Theron.  I don't know if the other guys did better because they got to look at the comic and see the characters or not, because I don't know whether or not they even read it (I would assume so given how short it is... no excuse not to).  I think the main problem was the stuff they added with those characters just wasn't that strong.  It wasn't terrible, but I feel like it didn't give them a lot to work with.  Right after the movie I had a more positive view of it, but the more I think on it, the more that tacked on stuff feels tacked on.  I think it was a less a problem with the actors and more a problem with the material (and the script/dialogue... I swear, nearly all the movies I've watched recently and not liked that much were almost all victims of lousy scripts).

Julia didn't like Delios much, but I thought he was fine.  She found the narration a little off.  Didn't strike me as much of an issue, though.  I think it was more than she liked him better as Faramir in LotR.

Funny story... well, sort of.  Julia was feeling really sick at the theater because she's on some new meds that we think aren't agreeing with her.  Once she sat down, though, she started to feel a bit better.  Then when the movie started and the  battles got going... man.  There were a few times when she shoved her face into my chest and closed her eyes, and I think everyone around us thought that it was because she couldn't watch the violence.  But it was because she the huge IMAX screen was making her unsettled stomach feel a bit *more* unsettled... motion sickness.  It was pretty funny, because Julia's seen and read stuff equally if not more violent than this movie.  Hell, she went through the entire Berserk anime *and* manga.

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« Reply #29 on: Saturday, March 10, 2007, 04:49:18 PM »
Meg and I saw the movie this afternoon. We both really really enjoyed it. I loved it. It was a just a lot of fun.

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« Reply #30 on: Saturday, March 10, 2007, 09:28:15 PM »
Saw it today. Don't get me wrong, it was good -- very good, even -- and I quite liked it. But I didn't think it lived up to the all the hype it's generated. It didn't blow me away.

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« Reply #31 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 01:35:55 AM »
It kind of pumped me up in some sort of way. It made me want to strength train even more. Those guys were all fucking jacked. And they kind of exuded badassness.

"You there, what is your profession?".
"Blacksmith".
"And you?".
"A sculptor".
"Heh, a Sculptor. Spartans! What is your profession!?"

"Huah! Huah! Huah!"

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« Reply #32 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 01:45:43 AM »
Dude, watch some behind the scenes stuff.  The way those guys trained for the movie was awesome.  And the fight stuff they did was awesome, too.  The manliness is all over the place.

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« Reply #33 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 01:58:04 AM »
what behind the scenes stuff?

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« Reply #34 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 01:59:27 AM »
I can't wait to see this.

Also I think it would have been a great idea to include Ben Affleck in the movie and then have everyone beat him up.

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Re: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
« Reply #35 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 02:06:02 AM »
There's behind the scenes stuff all over.  Interviews and crap.  Check on the big annoying movie portals, they've got a lot of it.

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« Reply #36 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 04:39:18 PM »
Or wait for the DVD which will have all that stuff on there.

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« Reply #37 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 04:41:20 PM »
Dammit I don't think I have time to see it this weekend.  I guess I might go see it later in the week or something.

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« Reply #38 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 09:20:37 PM »
Oh yeah, they had a nice long trailer for Grindhouse before the movie. Gonna be a total guy movie year or something.

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« Reply #39 on: Sunday, March 11, 2007, 09:41:28 PM »
Oh yeah, they had a nice long trailer for Grindhouse before the movie. Gonna be a total guy movie year or something.

Hell yeah, that movie looks like its going to be a blast, Robert Rodriguez is going to be promoting it at The Alamo Drafthouse theater here in Austin in person supposedly since his studio is here and some of it was shot here as well.