Topic: NWN2 -- The HUGE, HUGE Thread

[MysterD]

Xessive will be happy to know, MyD owns this game -- ya for $25 @ Best Buy on Black Friday.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

I installed it and patched it up to 1.02 last nite.

That was about all I did w/ it last nite.

[Xessive]

Xessive will be happy to know, MyD owns this game -- ya for $25 @ Best Buy on Black Friday.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

I installed it and patched it up to 1.02 last nite.

That was about all I did w/ it last nite.

Felicitaciones! Congratulations! I hope you really enjoy it

I have yet to try the multiplayer. I'm still trying to create the best character for me In NWN1 I got my ass kicked online until I figured the ultimate character for my style of playing.

[MysterD]

Holy shit at the character selection screenies and class related stuff -- namely the amount of races, the classes, gods, etc etc.

There's a lot here.

Xessive, what are you?

I'm thinking of going for a Human, Warlock class, Chaotic Neutral, w/ some sort of God.

[Xessive]

The classes, prestige classes, and race/subrace choices are amazing. They definitely did a great job with that.

For my second character I was kinda torn between Human and Tiefling.. I wound up with Human just for the good xp. I started out as a rogue, then I specialized as a Shadow Dancer. So my character is now a lvl 7 Rogue and lvl 3 Shadow Dancer. Found me a Shadow Dancer Outfit too

I haven't played the game for about a week now, I'm still waiting for the official patch v1.03.

[MysterD]

I been playing this. Yeah, I don't like the camera modes. I really can't wait for the 1.03 patch.

Performance sucks, technically -- on the outdoors. It's fine indoors. I really hoep they keep fixing performance issues. It looks good, but it's no Oblivion.

I took the route I said I woukd: Warlock, Choatic Neutral, etc etc like I posted.

I think I will be probably, later on, go for the Arcane Trickster. That Arcane Trickster class seems sweet. Like a magical thief or somethin'.

[Xessive]

Oh yeah the performance fixes are  much needed. You can try out the 1.03 Beta if you like. The official 1.03 won't be out till Wednesday I think; it's been delayed as they initially announced that it was scheduled to be released before Thanksgiving weekend.

The Beta has been reported to have some good performance fixes already.

Yeah, the Arcane Trickster is turning out to be a popular prestige class! I never use magic, so I just resort to the classic and reliable Rogue class I think I'm gonna make current character lvl 10 Rogue and lvl 10 Shadow Dancer (the level cap is 20). So far my ideal class seems to be a Swashbuckler Rogue.

[MysterD]

Oh yeah the performance fixes are  much needed. You can try out the 1.03 Beta if you like. The official 1.03 won't be out till Wednesday I think; it's been delayed as they initially announced that it was scheduled to be released before Thanksgiving weekend.

The Beta has been reported to have some good performance fixes already.

I knew the Beta for 1.03 is out, but I'm gonna wait for the 1.03 Final, when it comes and all.

Yeah, the Arcane Trickster is turning out to be a popular prestige class! I never use magic, so I just resort to the classic and reliable Rogue class

It does seem cool to me, from when I read through the classes and all.

I think I'm gonna make current character lvl 10 Rogue and lvl 10 Shadow Dancer (the level cap is 20). So far my ideal class seems to be a Swashbuckler Rogue.

Sounds sweet.

So far, the game's been good. I did the tutorial and now....

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I'm in the Ruins, after seeing a Cut Scene of what look'd to be Amie, who I thought died, walk outside the Ruins.

So far, so good.

Took some time to get used to the Driving Cam, since it spins on its own when your character turns, but that seems to be the one I'm using.

The Top Down Cam is okay, but it don't stay zoomed in if you zoom in.

The Free Cam does nothing for me. Ick!

Chase Cam is good, until it moves too much on its own for me. Then, I wanna slam it against the wall!

[Xessive]

Yo MyD, what are your graphic settings at? On my system the medium texture quality gave me some pretty bad framerates, and when I switched to high the performance jumped up. Also setting the shadow mode to Low seems to help quite a bit.

Here are the options I found are performance hogs:

• Soft Shadows
• Normal Terrain Maps
• Point Lights
• Bloom
• Light Sources From Party Members
• Water Refraction
• Water Reflections

Switch those off, and you should gain a few more frames.

I spotted a few memory leaks too (primarily where there's lots of grass), and it looks like they'll be addressed in 1.03.

[Pugnate]

On my system the medium texture quality gave me some pretty bad framerates, and when I switched to high the performance jumped up

 

[MysterD]

Yo MyD, what are your graphic settings at? On my system the medium texture quality gave me some pretty bad framerates, and when I switched to high the performance jumped up. Also setting the shadow mode to Low seems to help quite a bit.

Here are the options I found are performance hogs:

• Soft Shadows
• Normal Terrain Maps
• Point Lights
• Bloom
• Light Sources From Party Members
• Water Refraction
• Water Reflections

Switch those off, and you should gain a few more frames.

I was playing w/ many of those last nite.

I turned most of those off. And yeah -- now I got a decent framerate around 20-30 outdoors. I'm always fine indoors, though; don't have to worry inside and all. Ain't seen that below 30 on these settings, yet.

The game does look quite good, but -- yeah, it is nowhere as good as Oblivion.

I have the game on these settings:

General:
Game Res -- 1024x768
Texture Resolution -- HIGH
Shadows -- Medium

Advanced:
Texture Min Filter -- Linear
Texture Mag Filter -- Point
Mip-Map -- Point
Max Antistrophy -- Point
Water Reflections -- Off
Water Refractions -- Off
Bloom -- Off
Enable Light Source From Party -- Off
Lights -- 3 lights per object

I spotted a few memory leaks too (primarily where there's lots of grass), and it looks like they'll be addressed in 1.03.

Oh, good.

So far, the game's really good.

All it needs really is technical polish -- and I'll be very, very happy w/ those fixed issues and all.

Where MyD's at now (spoiler tag coming....)

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I made it up to the 3 guys being mean to the "Devil" girl @ the Fort. I saved her. She joined my party.

I'm about to enter the Fort itself.

[MysterD]

MyD is currently....

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at some Bandit Camp, doing a quest for a priest at the Fort.

[Xessive]

MyD is currently....

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at some Bandit Camp, doing a quest for a priest at the Fort.

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Actually there are two quests you can do there You can get the artifact for the priest and free the kidnapped refugees.

[Pugnate]

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You can also bang the priest's daughter.

[Xessive]

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You can also bang the priest's daughter.

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Hallelujah in Fallujah?! Ok now we're just abusing the spoiler tag

Patch 1.03 is supposed to be out today, so hopefully it'll be here before the sun sets.

EDIT:
Well, another deadline not met by the patch team. This had better be one hell of a patch! They're obviously missing the scheduled release dates for a good reason, and hopefully it'll really show in the patch.

[MysterD]

How come when I go into Options mid-game and all, I am NOT allowed to change the Keymappings? Yet, I can change them BEFORE I load or start a game?

You know what I liked about Dungeon Siege 2? The "Loot All" KEYMAPPING, in which once clicked, your selected/highlighted character picks up ALL THE LOOT nearby him/her on the ground. NWN2 could use one of those keymappings, given how much loot the game has dropped.

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Would've been nice if we could add our own custom map markers (and name them) right onto the map a la NWN1 and PS:T.

[Pugnate]

So when is patch 1.03 coming?

[Xessive]

How come when I go into Options mid-game and all, I am NOT allowed to change the Keymappings? Yet, I can change them BEFORE I load or start a game?

You know what I liked about Dungeon Siege 2? The "Loot All" KEYMAPPING, in which once clicked, your selected/highlighted character picks up ALL THE LOOT nearby him/her on the ground. NWN2 could use one of those keymappings, given how much loot the game has dropped.

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Would've been nice if we could add our own custom map markers (and name them) right onto the map a la NWN1 and PS:T.

All things that everyone is complaining about

The keymapping one is a bug..  Patch 1.03 is supposed to address it.

Having a "Loot All" key would be handy, I'm not sure if they'll add it or not.

The map markers (or lack there of) is one feature a lot of people have been complaining about, especially in multiplayer. I think Obsidian is considering adding the feature in a future update.

As of yet, we have no idea when patch 1.03 will be released.. The only date that was specified last Wednesday was "early next week."

[MysterD]

So when is patch 1.03 coming?

The Final Version of Patch 1.03 -- Not soon enough, if you ask me.

It's been in Beta for a lil' over a week now.

[MysterD]

All things that everyone is complaining about

The keymapping one is a bug..  Patch 1.03 is supposed to address it.

Yay!

Having a "Loot All" key would be handy, I'm not sure if they'll add it or not.

It'd be nice.

The map markers (or lack there of) is one feature a lot of people have been complaining about, especially in multiplayer. I think Obsidian is considering adding the feature in a future update.

I hope so.

As of yet, we have no idea when patch 1.03 will be released.. The only date that was specified last Wednesday was "early next week."

Well, now it's "late this week."

They should've just said, "Patch coming soon."

[MysterD]

I made it to Neverwinter.

Spoilers below about a special "Kobold"....

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Deekin (The Kobold) is there are a merchant! Very cool!

I hope that you can make him, later, join your party.

I need to get him a shoppe.

Yes, he ruled in NWN: HOTU and SOTU!!!!

[Xessive]

I made it to Neverwinter.

Spoilers below about a special "Kobold"....

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Deekin (The Kobold) is there are a merchant! Very cool!

I hope that you can make him, later, join your party.

I need to get him a shoppe.

Yes, he ruled in NWN: HOTU and SOTU!!!!

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Haha yeah I was happy to see him back I don't know if I should be telling you this, but what the hell, it's in a spoiler tag Later you'll be given a castle, and you can have Deekin as a merchant in your courtyard

[MysterD]

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Haha yeah I was happy to see him back I don't know if I should be telling you this, but what the hell, it's in a spoiler tag Later you'll be given a castle, and you can have Deekin as a merchant in your courtyard

Oh hell yessssssssssssssssss!!!!

Wo0t!!!

[Xessive]

Oh hell yessssssssssssssssss!!!!

Wo0t!!!

Haha thank God, I thought you were gonna hate me for telling you too soon

[MysterD]

Naw.

I'm glad the "Inspect/Highlight" command from NWN1 was kept. Was always handy, when trying to see spots where I can pick up items and stuff, since I won't have to move my mouse over EVERYWHERE to see if a chest or a door is a hot spot or not.

[MysterD]

You know what's cool about the Tomb of Betrayers, Xessive???!?

ZOMBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

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To add to the cool factor of the Tomb....

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Aribeth's ex-b/f Fenthick, who was hung in NWN1, is there -- his spirit is roaming these Tombs!!!

Cool tie-in w/ NWN1, I must say.

I just defeated him -- he runs a lot -- Mwahahahaha!

[Xessive]

You know what's cool about the Tomb of Betrayers, Xessive???!?

ZOMBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT:
To add to the cool factor of the Tomb....

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Aribeth's ex-b/f Fenthick, who was hung in NWN1, is there -- his spirit is roaming these Tombs!!!

Cool tie-in w/ NWN1, I must say.

I just defeated him -- he runs a lot -- Mwahahahaha!

Oh yeah! If Que played this game he'd love hunting undead

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Oh yeah, when I first noticed Fenthick in the Tomb of Betrayers I thought it was awesome that they tied that in! He runs like muthafukka though! I kinda wish there were a few more tie-ins though. I would have really liked to see a few of the NWN companions around.

[MysterD]

Oh yeah! If Que played this game he'd love hunting undead

If I do a NWN2 mod, maybe it should be a module w/ lots of ZOMBIES!!!!

Tomb of Betrayers spoilers from NWN2, about a certain "returning" character

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Oh yeah, when I first noticed Fenthick in the Tomb of Betrayers I thought it was awesome that they tied that in! He runs like muthafukka though! I kinda wish there were a few more tie-ins though. I would have really liked to see a few of the NWN companions around.

I wish Fenthink actually had some dialogue in NWN2 -- especially if he was to mention his beloved Aribeth and all.

Aribeth spoilers from NWN: Hordes

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Would be nice to see Aribeth around in NWN2 -- even though she was in one of them Cold Planes, in Hordes. Can't remember the name of that plane.

Kobold spoilers in NWN2

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At least Deekin is in NWN2, in some shape and form. And he even mentions the Undrentide and Hordes adventures, too -- if you ask about them!

I hope that 1.03 patch delivers this week -- yeah, like tomorrow!

[MysterD]

Regarding Patch 1.03....
Final version of Patch 1.03 has been released!!!
RUN that updater, NWN2 Owners!!

EDIT:
In other news....
TweakGuides.com has their own Performance Guide for getting NWN2 to run better on your system

[Xessive]

Yep, I just ran the updater and Shazam! It was a pleasant surprise

[MysterD]

Yep, I just ran the updater and Shazam! It was a pleasant surprise

Wo0t!!!

[MysterD]

Ooooh. The game is running much, much better, now.

The camera speed is MUCH better; more like NWN1 on rotating the cam for speed and all. Very good.

And, I can now jack up some of the settings w/out no problem!

Shadows settings now on MEDIUM.
Bloom is ON now.
Water Reflections and Refractions are ON.
Light Source from Party Members is ON.

Thinking of jumping Shadows to HIGH...

This is how the game *should've* performed right out the box.

[MysterD]

There should be a special option for DRUIDS to toggle ON and OFF the AI's usage of Wild Shape. The AI uses it too much for Elanee.

[Xessive]

There should be a special option for DRUIDS to toggle ON and OFF the AI's usage of Wild Shape. The AI uses it too much for Elanee.

Exactly! It's retarded! The annoying thing is any items she has equipped that add spell slots, are removed every time she morphs, and when she returns to her original form I have to add the spells again in the book. Then she just shapeshifts again!

I'm happy with the updated performance.. I don't really notice a huge difference in the camera controls.. Then again I never really used them any more than I would have with NWN1. This is definitely how the game should have been right out the box.

Now, I hope there will be some new additions to the game because I really want to create a sexy female character. As it is, there are no attractive females in the character creator.. Ok there's one Human, kinda looks like Lucy Liu.. But that's it.. The Elves all look like weird deformed people, the Half-elves have big noses for some reason, the Aasimars look sickly, and the Tieflings are so-so.

[Pugnate]

Exactly! It's retarded! The annoying thing is any items she has equipped that add spell slots, are removed every time she morphs, and when she returns to her original form I have to add the spells again in the book. Then she just shapeshifts again!

hahaha.

[Xessive]

Here's a campaign to look forward to: The Planescape Trilogy

Rogue Dao Studios announces the Planescape Trilogy, a massive campaign set in the Infinite Planes for Obsidian Entertainment's Neverwinter Nights 2.

The Planescape Trilogy will deliver up to 45 hours of gameplay, 16 adventuring companions, an epic main plot and a slew of dynamic side quests.

"We expect the Planescape Trilogy to be one of the must-play adventures once everyone is finished with the NWN2 Original Campaign," - Montgomery Lee Markland, Executive Producer and Lead Designer.

[Quemaqua]

Awesome!  Finally a reason to maybe sort of care about NWN2.

[Xessive]

Awesome!  Finally a reason to maybe sort of care about NWN2.

Haha I was hoping this would lure you in I know you loved Planescape: Torment, and this looks like a very interesting mod. According to the ticker they've got on the site, Purgatorio (the first of the trilogy) is set to be released in about 70 days.

[Quemaqua]

Depending on what people think, I might get curious.

[MysterD]

NWN2 is really good out the box, w/ patch 1.03 smoothing out many issues.

This Planescape mod sounds like something to definitely watch for.

[Pugnate]

Well I am pretty close to ordering this. I had a bunch of work on my car done that left me a bit poor. But yea I will buy this soon enough. Anyway check it:

Games for Windows: Top 10 games of the week

NWN2 at number 4 still which is pretty cool. The first 3 are pretty predictable heh.