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Dolphins are smart
« on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 09:55:11 PM »
Dolphins rescue surfer from shark

As happy as the story is, though, make sure you scroll down to the picture of the guy. Tell me he doesn't look high there...haha..

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #1 on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 10:01:53 PM »
cute dolphin!
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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #2 on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 10:02:53 PM »
Typical woman response.... ;)




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« Reply #3 on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 10:07:23 PM »
hmph  :P

lucky guy though.. dolphins eat sharks or sharks eat dolphins?
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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #4 on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 10:13:03 PM »
Dolphins don't eat sharks. I don't think that sharks eat dolphins, but I'm probably wrong.

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #5 on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 10:39:56 PM »
Since dolphins are about 1000 times smarter, they toy with the sharks.  The sharks can't catch them.

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 10:41:37 PM »
Wow! This almost makes me feel bad about wanting to go to Japan and getting a taste of "Flipper".

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 10:46:24 PM »
Since dolphins are about 1000 times smarter, they toy with the sharks.  The sharks can't catch them.

Right, but if they are circling around a slow swimmer...how can they protect him?

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #8 on: Thursday, November 08, 2007, 11:26:26 PM »
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Dolphins are smart

Don't forget sexy!!!

*watches everyone back away slowly*

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #9 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 12:35:40 AM »
That's an awesome story.

天才的な閃きと平均以下のテクニックやな。 課長有野

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #10 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 07:17:35 AM »
Right, but if they are circling around a slow swimmer...how can they protect him?

If the shark gets close to some of them, they won't just keep circling lazily.  They'll team up and start whacking the shark until it swims away.  I've seen a documentary that showed this behavior.

Edit:  Here is the other story.  It was mentioned in the first.  I like this one even better.

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When the shark started moving toward the women, including his 15-year-old daughter, the dolphins "went into hyperdrive," said Howes.

"I would suggest they were creating a confusion screen around the girls. It was just a mass of fins, backs and ... human heads."

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« Reply #11 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 07:27:37 AM »
Cool story.  It's strange though.  I mean you hear stories of dogs protecting their masters, but would some random dog protect some random person?  I doubt it.

Maybe the dolphins just like fucking with sharks, or maybe the are just truly caring animals.

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« Reply #12 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 07:34:28 AM »
To some degree at least, I'd say the latter.  They can fuck with the sharks without bothering with the helpless humans.  I'm sure adults that spend any time around shores know what a human being is and that he spends most of his time out of the water, and maybe even that he is completely helpless in the water.  There was a story not long ago that claimed to confirm dolphins having unique names for each other.  If they can call each other by name, don't tell me they can't pass around other information.  And underwater, sound travels a long way.  :)

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #13 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 08:20:04 AM »
That is so flippin' cool
Suck it, Pugnate.

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #14 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 08:51:15 AM »
Also, it may not be an everyday occurrence, Scott, but there have been random dogs that have helped people out before.  I remember a story from a while back where a stray attacked a thief that was trying to beat and burglarize some woman late at night.  I guess she was screaming, and he went running at the guy.  My dog did that too, even with people that weren't members of the family.  Sometimes if you were just playing around with a friend or goofing off, and that person was like laughing or screaming and you were "assaulting" them in some manner (like when I was wrestling around with my cousins, or... uh... doing questionable things to a girlfriend of the time), she'd run over and start looking concerned.  If you didn't stop, she'd start pawing at you, and if anyone's reactions got particularly tense, she'd occasionally even jump at you and try to push you out of the way.  It was me, so she wouldn't bite me, but it was plainly obvious that she was bothered.  It wasn't just that she wanted to play or anything, there was a decided difference.  Some dogs just seem bothered by a person who appears accosted in some way.

Dolphins and people share a strange relationship, though.  There aren't years of domestication and such to explain any of it, yet you have these instances that lead to cool stories of the prior kind.  Makes you wonder.

天才的な閃きと平均以下のテクニックやな。 課長有野

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« Reply #15 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 09:11:51 AM »
I've had dogs throughout the years, although they were never actually mine.  My mom got a sheepdog for my little brother back in the 70s.  That was the smartest dog I've ever known well.  He very much wanted to be a person.  He couldn't stand the lack of human presence, and would always intervene in fights and arguments.  He even tried to imitate speech with different pitch growls, I swear (though not well).  He picked up words from random conversations and would act on them.  And he was extremely protective of the family.  He could bring out the kind of deep, mean growl that makes people piss their pants.

Cut to some years later, and my wife rescues this lab dog and makes it her own.  It was a hound/mutt.  This was the dumbest animal I've ever had to live with.  Eating, shitting, barking machine.  Nothing but cobwebs in its head.  Barked at everything that moved, regardless of what it was.  No response to things other than food and a yank of the leash.

I guess my point is that there's too much variation in individual animals and experiences for anyone to know what all is possible.  We just should accept that almost anything is, up to and including human-like awareness in some of them.

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« Reply #16 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 11:35:40 AM »
It's kind of sad, though, that we are so willing to kill dolphins (along with other marine life) while they are intent on saving us.

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« Reply #17 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 12:33:49 PM »
I don't think killing dolphins on purpose is at all acceptable here.  Some places like Japan are another matter.

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #18 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 01:02:47 PM »
Why not?  They are basically sea rats.

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« Reply #19 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 01:02:57 PM »
By the way, I was kidding.

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« Reply #20 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 01:04:05 PM »
Yea fucking sea rats...

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awwww...

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« Reply #21 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 01:25:51 PM »
By the way, I was kidding.

Yeah, I figured as much.  :)

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #22 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 03:54:42 PM »
I don't think killing dolphins on purpose is at all acceptable here.  Some places like Japan are another matter.

I mostly meant through negative environmental practices. Japan is actually better than us in this regard. China, on the other hand...

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #23 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 05:37:22 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 06:20:08 PM »
I was speaking in more broad terms, but that is a terrible practice.

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #25 on: Friday, November 09, 2007, 08:51:21 PM »
Well, I'm fucking depressed now.  That ranks up there with how depressed I get about dogs being abused and slaughtered in the Philippines.

天才的な閃きと平均以下のテクニックやな。 課長有野

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #26 on: Sunday, November 11, 2007, 01:57:56 PM »
Breaking news:

CRUSTACEANS FEEL PAIN 

......and still no one cares because they're not dolphins.

and because it's still somewhat uncertain

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #27 on: Sunday, November 11, 2007, 09:41:58 PM »
ahh there's this other place i went to where they eat dogs..

you know how they have pics of what's in a dish in certain restaurants.. well the first pic was a shark, beside a cooked dish, next pic was a lamb beside another dish, then a dog beside a dish, and chicken beside another one...

ahem..

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« Reply #28 on: Sunday, November 11, 2007, 10:13:24 PM »
Maybe it was a bestiality joint?

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« Reply #29 on: Sunday, November 11, 2007, 10:27:28 PM »
Don't start with that kind of talk, Pug. You'll get Keebs excited.

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« Reply #30 on: Sunday, November 11, 2007, 10:49:54 PM »
Those great whites better watch out.

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« Reply #31 on: Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 01:24:51 PM »
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Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.

That's new.  Anyway, I'm ignoring it.  My post belongs here.

Dolphin rescues stranded whales.  It came in after humans tried for hours without success, and guided them out to sea.  Apparently, they can communicate with each other, though they're different cetacean species.  Super.

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« Reply #32 on: Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 01:27:19 PM »
It's not new, it's been set that way since the beginning.  You probably just have never tried to post to a really old thread.

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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 01:31:44 PM »
It's not that old, though.  Doesn't matter.  Dolphins do.   :)

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« Reply #34 on: Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 04:58:39 PM »
Cool stuff!  I don't know how you can explain that other than to say the dolphin realized what was going on and decided to help the whales.

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Re: Dolphins are smart
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 08:04:26 PM »
I love dolphins.  Stories like that just make you love them even more.  How can you not like an animal that's friendly, playful, and all cute and stuff?

EDIT - And, um... the wife points out I forgot "intelligent".  I swear I was going to put that instead of cute.

天才的な閃きと平均以下のテクニックやな。 課長有野

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« Reply #36 on: Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 08:11:03 PM »
Dolphin rescues stranded whales.
Is there another link to that video? CNN wanted me to disable Flashblock, and I refused.

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« Reply #37 on: Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 09:17:09 PM »
There's a video?

. . .

There's a video!  Missed the tab.  Thanks for pointing it out.

Courtesy of Internet Dl Manager.  Need an FLV-friendly player.  VLC is what I use.

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« Reply #38 on: Thursday, March 13, 2008, 05:27:50 PM »
Its not an actual video of the rescue, but they did have some footage of the dolphin swimming around and playing with kids on the beach where he apparently likes to hang out.

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« Reply #39 on: Thursday, March 13, 2008, 10:01:55 PM »
It is really interesting to think about. What biological advantage could they get from saving another species?