Topic: morality check

[gpw11]

Were you to be going up to your cabin on the weekend you traditionally go up to your cabin with a group of friends from roughly grade 2 on and decided that you were going to try to get down some girl's pants, invited her up, realized you couldn't have her and one of your friends up at the same time (because you're awkward), would it or would it not be wrong to go out of your way to lie to your friend about it, invite her up, post the pictures on facebook, and then just not say anything? 

Remember the issue here isn't the lack of the invite (not a big deal, one is free to do what they want with who they want), but the lie.

[WindAndConfusion]

Would it or would it not be wrong to go out of your way to lie to your friend about it, invite her up, post the pictures on facebook, and then just not say anything? 

It would be wrong because I would find these pictures and tell your friend about them.

[JacksRag(e)]

Don't lie.  It just wouldn't be worth it.  Or you may risk losing said friend of many years over a girl you most likely will bed then drop.

[Antares]

Why is the friend awkward with the girl?  The reasoning there would affect whether or not bros before hoes really matters in this case.  Also, how hot is this girl, and how hot is she compared to the normal girls the guy gets, and how often does he get them?

[Ghandi]

Ant brings up a good point. Hotness is a key question.

But really, you shouldn't lie - just tell him that having a girl up there instead of him is a much, much better scenario for you. Which is pretty reasonable if you ask me. I'd much rather bring a girl than a guy up to a cabin when it's just the two of us.

[Quemaqua]

To be honest, I barely even understood your question.  That's probably my fault, though.  Just home from work and all.

[idolminds]

Morality is directly proportional to how hot the chick is.

[gpw11]

Ok, some clarification is needed here.  This motherfucker went up to his cabin last week, acted really weird when I asked him if he was going up a few weeks ago (I couldn't go this year because of obligations that same weekend), called me a few days later with "The cabin trip isn't going on this year because it's more of a family thing.", and then posted pictures of the weekend with a few friends (to be fair, the majority didn't go up this year for various reasons), and this chick up there. 

Knowing how awkward this guy is (social retard, total pussy), I'm well aware he went out of his way to explain to me that it wasn't going on under the impression that I was expecting to go up.  I'm also well aware that he did it because in his mind he expected some drama between me and a girl who I have been blatantly ignoring for two years (Her: "Oh hey gpw11!  How's it going?" Me: "Good.  I'm going to go get a drink.  Take it easy.").  He expected this because he's a total fucking retard.  I posted about this chick once before, she's the one that called me to tell me she "just wanted to be friends".  Great, that's an admirable thing to do, but she did it about 2 months after the last time I talked to her (I had hooked up with her a couple nights, went out with her once, and we had some phone plans made and broken but I never went out with her again), and conspicuously right before I was having a huge party.  I'm not fucking retarded and the motive there is pretty transparent, I took it as an insult and as a result have had no time for her at all.  It's not a big deal at all, but this guy is pretty fucked and apparently thinks it is. 

So, I probably wrote that totally wrong the first time, but you got the roles reversed.  I'm pissed, because a.) he's too much of a pussy to be like "Hey ______ is coming up and it'd be kind of weird if you were there. b.) because he thinks it would even be an issue and c.) because he went out of his way to lie about it and then did something as stupid as post the fucking pictures.  So, the question I'm asking is if what he pulled off was actually morally wrong, or if it is acceptable (but obviously something I'm still going to be pissed about).

As for the hotness question, the girl has a smoking body but kind of a stupid face. I don't abide by the number scale so I'll go with she's ok to take home from the bar or nail occasionally, but she's nothing to brag about.  She's also waaaay too hyped on yoga, so she's dumb as a rock.

[Ghandi]

pics?

[ren]

it's always right. whatevers going on it;s laways right. jut do it. also, hgandi is righjt with the pics. as;o ,you mak eno sense.

[Ghandi]

Ren, what did I tell you about drinking? You know that you're not old enough.

[ren]

but I am ld enough!. drinking age is 19 here

[Ghandi]

Ren, everyone here knows that you are 13. I know that you have a problem with being too bitchy, but alcohol isn't the answer.

[Antares]

The only way I can see your friend's actions being defensible was if the awkwardness was a result of some dumbass thing you had done to cause it.  In which case, you would be the one who would have to reap the consequences of being an asshole.  In this case, it sounds like you never did anything wrong and your friend is being a pussy.

[gpw11]

I'm going to tell you a story about my friend from back when we were 19 years of age;

This guy (Mark) had wicked house parties.  He's the youngest of three brothers, both older ones had wicked parties, and they taught him everything he knew.  These were legendary parties.  So anyways, as one of these parties was winding down (I was already gone), he decided he needed to eat some A&W.  There's no A&W nearby, so he needs someone to drive.  Dan will drive, Dan loves driving.  So, Mark and Dan decide to go on an A&W mission, but Dan is too drunk to drive.  They ask around and some chick is totally going to drive to the drive-through.  I don't know the specifics of what came next but Mark disappeared somewhere in his own house and they looked for him for around 30 min. before they gave up and left to go to A&W.  Total time there were gone; roughly 40 min.

Mark crawls out of whatever hole he was in and looks around for them.  No go.  Mark...well Mark is fucked in the head.  In his mind, Dan and this chick (who mark probably likes because she has a vagina and made eye contact with him once) are making out, rubbing delicious teen burgers all over each other.  Mark gets mad.  Mark needs revenge.

Dan returns to find all the doors to Mark's house locked and all the lights out.  He still has his keys in his pocket, whew.  Dan goes to sleep in his car for a couple hours and then drives home after the sun is up.  As Dan gets out of his car, he notices something on it. He investigates further: there is some sort of semi-transparent liquid all over his new jeep.  Semen?  No.  Whatever, Dan goes inside, leaves the 'sap' on his car and goes to sleep. 

With a clearer head on his shoulders, Dan goes back outside to investigate.  It's a clear-ish, paint like material....aha! Clear coat!  Now why is there hardened clear coat all over his car?  Mark's parents just redid their deck! Holy shit, that motherfucker is crazy.

When Dan called Mark to ask him about the mysterious Case of the Jizz Covered Jeep, Mark refused to admit there was anything at all wrong with pouring two cans of clear coat  all over your friend's brand new jeep simply because he went to A&W without you. He claims Dan "had this coming".  Dan hung up the phone, called the insurance company and pretended that it happened in the middle of the night when his car was parked in front of his house.  The culprit? Obviously drunken four year olds.  Dan then hung up with the insurance company, called about 20 other people, told them the story and we all as a group came to the conclusion that we should never mention it to Mark again because he's obviously capable of killing people in their sleep.

Mark isn't awkward because of past events, Mark is awkward because he is completely fucked.  That's not even close to the only time he's done something like that, The Case of the Mysteriously Hidden Spray Paint is even better.

[idolminds]

I think a book about gpws life would be the best read ever.

[Xessive]

Man, you need to tell us these tales! hehe

I can safely say that misleading your friend so you can get some alone time with a lady is in no direct violation of the "Bro code" assuming the "Bro" in question is in no relation to the lady. However, I can't say how safe you will be should said "Bro" find out. He seems to have some problemas, holmes.

[ren]

Mark is in the wrong for lying to you and then posting pics. That's pretty shitty. I'm a big proponent of hos before bros (fuck the other way), but that only works if you're completely honest or cover your tracks when you lie. There's no middleground or else you get shitty drama.