Author Topic: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Read 47966 times)

PyroMenace · « **Reply #40 on:** Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 05:11:02 PM »

You should get all those, wear them at night, and do some super sneaking around.

MysterD · « **Reply #41 on:** Friday, August 07, 2009, 01:46:43 PM »

W7RE · « **Reply #42 on:** Saturday, August 08, 2009, 08:23:02 PM »

Well, most games are shifting to a more console oriented market. It sucks, but PC users are getting the shaft. What are you gonna do? You go along with it and start buying games on 360, or you resist and get shitty ports if anything at all.

MysterD · « **Reply #43 on:** Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 06:09:00 PM »

We now know ONE of the planned DLC's for Modern Warfare 2 is planned for Spring 2010 (for the console versions - PS3 and X360).

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Today, Activision revealed the timeframe for one of those map packs, as part of a giveaway for Modern Warfare 2-branded Monster Energy drinks that will go on sale in October. As part of a set of promotional materials provided to various media outlets, the Monster Energy packaging notes that 5,000 winners will be offered a free Modern Warfare 2 map pack, which has a "planned release" in spring 2010.

Activision declined to offer more information on the giveaway and would not comment on whether the spring 2010 map pack would be the first available for Modern Warfare 2.

MysterD · « **Reply #44 on:** Monday, October 05, 2009, 11:25:55 AM »

PC Version getting delayed for 2 weeks.
Pushed back to Nov. 24th.

Console versions still on track for Nov. 10th.

MysterD · « **Reply #45 on:** Sunday, October 18, 2009, 12:48:21 PM »

Ummm..good news and bad news for Call of Duty: MW2 PC.

Good News

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Yesterday Infinity Ward Creative Specialist Robert Bowling went on an information dropping streak about the upcoming PC version of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. Those looking to play the game on the PC can breathe a sigh of relief as he tweeted that the PC version of the game will indeed be landing on the exact same day as the 360 and PS3.

He doesn't have the minimum specs yet, but he says the PC version will have Prestige Mode and plenty of Steam support, which is good news for those who prefer to shoot with a mouse.

Bad News

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Bowling also dropped some info on the PC version's servers, or lack thereof. On the Bash and Slash podcast he discussed the upcoming PC version and let slip that it would not have dedicated servers. Instead Infinity Ward will be using a propriety matchmaking network called IWnet that runs along side Steam to do all matchmaking so that it will "allow matchmaking for our PC users as well, just like you have on a console that’s built in on Xbox Live and PSN."

This is obviously a lot different than dedicated servers as IWNet basically works like a console game's multiplayer and matches you up with players of the same rank. According to Bowling there will be "no dedicated server list(s)," and you will rely on IWnet for "matchmaking and your games, but you still have your private matches." Kind of taking what is unique about multiplayer gaming on a PC and crushing it, huh?

Sorry to get you PC gamers all excited in the first paragraph and then come down on you in the second. What do you say? Boycott?

idolminds · « **Reply #46 on:** Sunday, October 18, 2009, 12:59:29 PM »

This will basically kill the game on PC. If you come out with a FPS and don't have dedicated servers, its as good as dead.

MysterD · « **Reply #47 on:** Sunday, October 18, 2009, 01:11:48 PM »

Quote from: idolminds on Sunday, October 18, 2009, 12:59:29 PM

This will basically kill the game on PC. If you come out with a FPS and don't have dedicated servers, its as good as dead.

Especially with something as big as Call of Duty, PC gamers are going to be pissed about this. Especially w/ how great COD4: Modern Warfare was. There were ALWAYS servers up for that game -- and I'm talking about some few months ago when I played this, when there were 1000's of servers going on w/ this game -- and this game's been around for a few years; and World at War is a newer COD out! Infinity Ward are just giving PC gamers more reason to laugh at that $60 price-tag.

I had no intentions of buying MW2 when it came out, but now they're giving me even more reason to not jump about when this drops. Yeah, call me when Modern Warfare 2 PC drops to $30 or less.

I think Borderlands, Torchlight, and Dragon Age are calling for my soul this Winter.

Xessive · « **Reply #48 on:** Sunday, October 18, 2009, 01:23:13 PM »

That sucks.. Have they mentioned anything about private servers? Y'know the classic way, I start a game and people hop in via server list or join IP.

MysterD · « **Reply #49 on:** Sunday, October 18, 2009, 01:52:12 PM »

Quote from: Xessive on Sunday, October 18, 2009, 01:23:13 PM

That sucks.. Have they mentioned anything about private servers? Y'know the classic way, I start a game and people hop in via server list or join IP.

On the last part of the "bad news part", yes -- it mentions there can be private servers; even though you got to run IWNet.

idolminds · « **Reply #50 on:** Sunday, October 18, 2009, 04:01:02 PM »

Even Hitler is upset!

PyroMenace · « **Reply #51 on:** Sunday, October 18, 2009, 04:19:27 PM »

Haha, those vids never get old.

MysterD · « **Reply #52 on:** Sunday, October 18, 2009, 04:50:56 PM »

LOL @ the 3 people staying in the room that didn't cancel their pre-order.

Pugnate · « **Reply #53 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 12:34:13 AM »

I don't understand... so if I am a fan of the game and want to dedicate a machine to run a high speed server... I can't?

That's ridiculous. WTF?

idolminds · « **Reply #54 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 01:20:42 AM »

People are making up shit like "Its to stop piracy!"

Its not. Really, its to keep people from making alterations so they can sell such alterations as DLC. They also want the ability to shut down the servers so people will buy CoD5 and CoD6 or whatever.

Pugnate · « **Reply #55 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 03:56:32 AM »

Fuck these guys, they are killing PC gaming.

The sad thing is that CoD: MW sold like apeshit during its reign, and was the best selling "hardcore" PC game by far of recent times. It is just ridiculous of them to pull shit like this when they've already got the sales bagged.

Quemaqua · « **Reply #56 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 05:57:14 AM »

I should teach a class on "what fanboyism gets you". This would be a decent intro.

MysterD · « **Reply #57 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 04:45:08 PM »

Guys, it gets worse...
MUCH worse.
Just read this crap.

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PC Modern Warfare 2 Snubs Mod Community?
By Bryn Williams | Oct 19, 2009
Infinity Ward's PC version of the new shooter will lack dedicated servers and mod tools.

All hell is breaking loose in certain PC shooter communities. The anger is stemming from a recent webcast released be BASHandSlash, which EvilAvatar posted news about over the weekend. In it, Infinity Ward reveals the first information about IWnet, its new matchmaking service.

So why are PC gamers getting so pissed off? It seems that Infinity Ward wants Modern Warfare 2 on the PC to replicate the console experience. This means no dedicated server clients will be made available, and modders wont be able to work their magic creating custom-made modes and maps.

Robert Bowling has confirmed that the PC version of Call of Duty is essentially ruined as far as multiplayer and customization goes. Let's get a quick rundown here of what Bowling said on the webcast.

# IW has control of the game
# IWnet servers will host multiplayer
# DLC will be a charged item for PC
# No dedicated servers – WTF?
# Matchmaking system used to play with similarly ranked players
# VAC instead of PB
# Semi-capable password servers
# Semi-capable ad-hoc servers
# Competitive play is dead – good job IW, idiots.
# MW2 mods would not be possible
# Full integration into Steam

While we're waiting on some form of official statement, it would seem as though PC Call of Duty fans might have reason to sing the blues.

Xessive · « **Reply #58 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 05:30:47 PM »

Lame.

So.. Boycott?

OW.net: BOYCOTT! EFF YEAH!

What the Hell is up with this PC game sabotage lately?!

MysterD · « **Reply #59 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 05:43:37 PM »

Like most games: I'll probably wait until MW2 gets cheaper - around $20 or less.

About PC gaming sabotage: for some reason, especially the publishers and a lot of dev's see the money they are making on the console and just want to stick w/ that, I guess. I understand making for one console system is probably a lot easier than who knows how many different variations of PC's, but geez - at least do the PC version right, if you're going to do one.

I think that's dumb train of thought, myself -- for dev's and publishers to think that console is where all the money is right. By them thinking this, you're leaving the PC-only demographic out of the mix.

This also gets to my other point - stop making PC gaming requirements TOO high, game companies. Make 'em too high, nobody is going to buy -- especially the "casual PC gamer" who knows not a lot about PC gaming and hardware and system requirements and all of that junk. Why do Valve games sell well? B/c they don't kill you w/ system requirements - they find a wide range of hardware that their engine supports and go with it.

And guess what? There's probably more PC's in households around the world than say next-gen consoles - we should be the lead platform around here! But, there's too much chaos and anarchy here on the PC for it to lead the gaming platform!

Also, stop these lazy-ass console to PC ports. If you're going take a little more to get my PC port right, FINE. I can wait, in most instances.

Xessive · « **Reply #60 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 06:16:31 PM »

I agree with you on every point there. Although I will say that regarding the system requirements it's not a question of whim, rather a necessity especially when it's a multi-platform release, it has to at the very least match its console counterparts. The key is to keep the framerate acceptable for the greatest number of PC players. Valve figures out their demographics with their occasional system surveys, allowing them to gauge what the majority of Steam users have under the hood.

Quemaqua · « **Reply #61 on:** Monday, October 19, 2009, 06:49:26 PM »

I had no interest in the game before any of this anyway, so... uh, if that counts as a boycott, I guess I'm in.

idolminds · « **Reply #62 on:** Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 12:10:18 PM »

IW responds

Warning, the article is horribly written and very bias. Just look at this paragraph:

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Predictably, nerds across world took to the Internet with a wailing and a gnashing of teeth that would make the Left 4 Dead community proud. An online petition to bring back dedicated servers at the time of this writing stands at 100,000+ signatures. However -- and this may shock some gamers with advanced persecution complexes -- this move was not made to tweak the noses of the PC community. Infinity Ward heads Jason West and Vince Zampella explain the decision as a conscious effort to improve their game for the vast majority of their players.

So everyone that thinks this is bullshit are "nerds" with "persecution complexes". Not, you know, customers that don't like what a company is doing with a product and are telling them so.

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"We're just prioritizing the player experience above the modders and the tuners," says West. He points toward the mounting feedback IW has received from PC fans of Modern Warfare who couldn't find a decent server to play on between all of the cheaters, the insular communities, and huge skill level disparities that the original game's community fractured into. "We thought maybe it would be cool if the fans could play the game," he laughs.

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Again and again during our conversation, West and Zampella hammer the point that hardcore PC players lose very little to this change relative to the returns that casual to moderate fans will see. Clans can set up private matches to do their training or what have you; all they lose is the ability to customize the game on a deeper level with mods and such. Infinity Ward sees the addition of solid matchmaking and community support like IW-run tournaments to the PC as a huge win, and not something that could be done under the old system.

Why not have both? West does not want to include dedicated servers alongside the custom-built backend, stating that it would just "bifurcate the community."

That makes no sense. Clans are either going to do "private matches" and not let random people in, or they would host their own server...and not let random people in. This isn't splitting a community, its a community wanting to split itself. Clans want to be clans and away from the casual players, and the casual players don't want to be canon fodder for the clans. So actually having both matchmaking as well as dedicated servers would be the ideal solution.

And yes, we haven't been running tournaments without matchmaking since Quake. WTF is he smoking?

idolminds · « **Reply #63 on:** Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 12:35:06 PM »

Even more justification.

Its like they don't even understand why people would want to run their own servers.

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haha, someone summed it up perfectly: "PC gamers, I'mma let you finish, but IWNET is the greatest matchmaking system of ALL TIME."

MysterD · « **Reply #64 on:** Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 02:01:13 PM »

Quote from: idolminds on Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 12:35:06 PM

haha, someone summed it up perfectly: "PC gamers, I'mma let you finish, but IWNET is the greatest matchmaking system of ALL TIME."

ROFL!!!
Anyone got a picture of Kanye saying this quote in a bubble and say interrupting a bunch of PC gamers?

EDIT:
Idol, that is spin, if I've ever heard it...

EDIT 2:
Robert Bowling is planning to let IW know about the petition going online against lack of dedicated servers and get some responses from them.

Quemaqua · « **Reply #65 on:** Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 06:33:26 PM »

Wow, nice job, GameInformer. Fucking asshats. Good job with the impartial journalism.

You know, I don't get it. When did it become common practice to ignore people who want your products? I'm thinking Diablo III, L4D2, and now this, specifically, but I think there were a couple more minor ones in the last couple of years. Seriously, what the fuck? When did it become, "The customer is never right"?

Xessive · « **Reply #66 on:** Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 02:12:53 AM »

It's what happens whe they shift balance from satisfying current customers to attracting new demographics (which usually entails mainstreaming and over-simplification of a product). In this case it's like they believe it's one or the other, when they ought to be moderating and finding the delicate harmony between them.

PyroMenace · « **Reply #67 on:** Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 04:49:47 AM »

Meh, I don't see this as that big of a deal.

I've always looked at Modern Warfare more of a console catered game than that of PC, so seeing this news I can see how it bugs PC gamers, but can also see why they did it. Its a bit of a bold move for sure, but I still understand it. Honestly though, half the people on this board dismissed the first MW and I can't remember the last time anybody talking about playing multiplayer FPS games here, I mean hell, I barely played MW multiplayer either. Whatever PC community we have here, it doesn't centralize on these types of games in the least. IW is investing their time and money into attracting that multiplayer FPS crowd, which a good chunk of it is in consoles these days, still playing games like Halo 3, Halo 2, and Gears of War games. Face it guys, we are the total opposite of what that crowd is, IW could give two shits about us. Why are we caring about them all of a sudden?

Quemaqua · « **Reply #68 on:** Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 06:59:58 AM »

Well, I don't think most of us are, but as evidenced by the aforementioned news items, there are tons of other people who are. I more or less agree with your statements which is why I never gave a shit about the first MW in the first place, but that doesn't make the practice of telling your potential customers that they're stupid any less shocking.

idolminds · « **Reply #69 on:** Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 09:43:12 AM »

While I didn't care about the MW series, I care if this sort of thing becomes "the norm" for PC gaming. And if this works out for CoD, which is one of the most popular series of online shooters, you'll see others follow suit.

K-man · « **Reply #70 on:** Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 06:12:53 PM »

Until Pyro just pointed this out to me, I didn't even know about this. Course I've had zero interest in the game (even though I loved the first one).

But yeah, this is fucking retarded on IW's part. Way to bite the hand that feeds you.

This just gives PC gamers enough reason to not buy the new game and just continue to play the old one.

MysterD · « **Reply #71 on:** Thursday, October 22, 2009, 02:28:18 PM »

If these are the real specs required for Modern Warfare 2 PC, they don't look too much different than COD4: MW.

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Hard Drive Space: 16 GB free hard drive space
Operating System: Windows Vista/XP
Processor: AMD 64 3200+ or Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz or better
RAM: 512 MB RAM (XP) / 1 GB RAM (VISTA)
Video Card: Shader 3.0 or better 256 MB nVidia GeForce 6600GT / ATI Radeon 1600XT or better

W7RE · « **Reply #72 on:** Thursday, October 22, 2009, 06:37:27 PM »

Quote from: MysterD on Thursday, October 22, 2009, 02:28:18 PM

If these are the real specs required for Modern Warfare 2 PC, they don't look too much different than COD4: MW.

It's a port from Xbox 360, it's not gonna jump up a lot in requirements. Maybe not a port, but the 360 version is obviously the primary version, and I'd be surprised if that doesn't affect something more than just the server/matchmaking system.

idolminds · « **Reply #73 on:** Friday, October 23, 2009, 03:21:14 PM »

My how times have changed.

Xessive · « **Reply #74 on:** Friday, October 23, 2009, 04:01:44 PM »

Quote from: idolminds on Friday, October 23, 2009, 03:21:14 PM

My how times have changed.

Haha good find, Idol. I love how the first thing he boasts is "..we have dedicated servers, with nice fat pipes.."

Honestly, I'm not a fan of punkbuster. With most games it's only given me grief in multiplayer. Servers would randomly kick me with a message like "suspected cheat activity" or something stupid when I'm not cheating at all. Aside from that it needs to have a service running in the background in Windows at all times for some reason (PnkBstrA.exe and PnkBstrB.exe). So when a game announces Punkbuster as its anti-cheat I'm kinda disuaded. I'm still willing to overlook it if the game is worthwhile of course.

idolminds · « **Reply #75 on:** Friday, October 23, 2009, 04:26:24 PM »

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Punkbuster either. Whatever it is the thing does, it wastes my bandwidth. I used to play a lot of Quake 3 before they added PB. Then it started to lag me out on any server that had PB enabled. Same thing happened in Wolf:ET. Though oddly I've been able to play Quake Live and it also uses PB. So who knows.

Ghandi · « **Reply #76 on:** Friday, October 23, 2009, 05:32:18 PM »

I've seen tons of cheaters in CoD:MW on the PS3 and they are far more frustrating than in any previous PC fps that I've played. If you find a dedicated server with a good community in a PC game, hackers are generally spotted and kicked quickly. But on the PS3 there's not a damn thing that you can do (at least in CoD).

But, yeah, Punkbuster sucks. I've always found human detection the best method.

Quemaqua · « **Reply #77 on:** Friday, October 23, 2009, 06:19:35 PM »

Punkbuster sucks. I still can't play Quake Live because of it.

MysterD · « **Reply #78 on:** Sunday, November 01, 2009, 09:05:36 PM »

Ummmm.....I don't know what to make of all this Fight Against Grenade Spamming...

Quemaqua · « **Reply #79 on:** Sunday, November 01, 2009, 09:19:18 PM »

Anybody that has the time to complain about that has way too much time.

I'd also like to point out the obscene irony of such complaints coming out of that community.

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Author Topic: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Read 47966 times)