Topic: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

[Quemaqua]

Classy.

[gpw11]

A lot of posters on digg are claiming that picture is fake. Take it for what it is.

[MysterD]

Infinity Ward is thinking of giving the character Ghost his own spin-off game.
WARNING: SPOILERS are mentioned in the link here - click me if interested!

EDIT:
Russia bans MW2 and recalls all copies due to the "controversial scene".

[W7RE]

Ghost spoilers:

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Prequel I guess? You know, since he got shot in the face and then set on fire. I've seen writers bring people back from a lot, but I don't know. Also Ghost and Gaz (MW1) have the same voice actor. The name "Ghost", and the fact that Gaz is dead(?) Is Ghost Gaz?

[MysterD]

From Attack of The Show...
PC games vs. Console games.

It's about more PC games just getting strict console ports that wind up lacking the usual assortment of PC features  - namely w/ Modern Warfare 2 is mentioned here.

[MysterD]

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PC has already outsold Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PC.

[Xessive]

I guess on the bright side they can't win a "PC sales are not good" argument.

On the other hand, I shudder to think how this will influence the course of PC gaming. I hope it's affected more by the positive outcome than the negatives (i.e. ridiculous implementations and omissions etc.).

[MysterD]

Steam's banning a bunch of people who bought Modern Warfare 2 game keys, re-sales, foreign versions, and have found other "grey" areas of the market for buying a copy of the game.

[Pugnate]

Considering that MW1 sold over 2 million on the PC, and that IW was arguing that they lost 5 times as much to piracy, and that this whole IWnet thing is supposed to combat it... I guess this closed system is really working here.

That's why I sometimes find it hard to sympathize with PC gamers complaining about losing their liberty. You reap what you sow.

edit:

Obviously, I am not saying that MW2 sold 2 million in a week all because of the strict and closed IW.net system; the game had a huge launch worldwide. But certainly you have lot of people now playing the game who weren't able to pirate.

Just to give you an example... there was a old school mate of mine, Fahad Mushtaq, who contacted me on facebook after like 15 years...

He said that he noted that I was really into PC gaming, and he was wondering where he should buy Modern Warfare II from, since he was finding it impossible to pirate. This guy said that he never buys a game he can't pirate.

[Xessive]

This guy said that he never buys a game he can't pirate.

So if he could pirate it he would buy it? Or do you mean he never buys a game he can pirate?

Anyway, the game is on Steam so regardless of IWNet you wouldn't be able to pirate it and successfully play online. All the records they have of people playing online are legitimate. If someone did pirate the game they'd never know because the pirate wouldn't be able to log in. The prime example being L4D. People are still trying to pirate it with only one minor success of being to play singleplayer. What I'm saying is that IWNet is redundant because you already have to be signed into Steam to play MW2.

With the way things are going I guess I should count my lucky stars that they didn't throw GFWL into the mix.

[MysterD]

What I'm saying is that IWNet is redundant because you already have to be signed into Steam to play MW2.

I think IWNet is where you're going to be able to get to probably buy DLC directly from.

Oh, and there are plans for a COD MMO, possibly.

[Pugnate]

Or do you mean he never buys a game he can pirate?

Yea that's what I meant.

As long as you can run a private server, you can pirate the multiplayer component of any game.

[MysterD]

Yea that's what I meant.

As long as you can run a private server, you can pirate the multiplayer component of any game.

Hmmm....Has someone hacked IWNet out of MW2 PC yet?

[idolminds]

Ive heard some hacked servers are possible. Probably going to get patched out

[MysterD]

Probably going to get patched out

Good.

[W7RE]

I was hearing on GiantBomb's podcast this week that apparently dedicated servers have been hacked into the PC version if you know where to dig on the net. I've heard a LOT about cheating on the PC version on IWnet, including rumours of people spreading a virus to people who aren't even using cheats/hacks.

[MysterD]

I was hearing on GiantBomb's podcast this week that apparently dedicated servers have been hacked into the PC version if you know where to dig on the net.

LOL. No surprise.

I've heard a LOT about cheating on the PC version on IWnet, including rumours of people spreading a virus to people who aren't even using cheats/hacks.

WTF?!?!

[idolminds]

I think the virus thing was a false report. Some virus scanner was flagging MW2 but it apparently wasnt anything.

[MysterD]

I think the virus thing was a false report. Some virus scanner was flagging MW2 but it apparently wasnt anything.

Was it Kaspersky?

Kaspersky's known to find some PC games (TR: Underworld, Borderlands, etc) as viruses b/c of how extra-protective it is w/ the keylogger files those games have.

[idolminds]

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PC has already outsold Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PC.

Just to clarify this, you have to watch the wording.

"The PC version of Modern Warfare 2 has actually outsold the PC version of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in its first week."

Its poorly worded, but Im pretty sure they mean that MW2 has sold more in its first week than MW1 did in its first week. I find it very hard to believe MW2 sold more in its first week than MW1 sold over its entire lifespan.

[MysterD]

Thanks for clarification, Idol.

[Pugnate]

See Idol, that's what I thought as well when I first read the quote. But then I heard from every source, incl. PCG, IGN, Giantbomb etc etc., that it did outsell COD4 completely.

And that sentence could still mean that MW2 outsold COD4 completely during its first week. He also went on to say that this piece of news made MW2 the best selling PC version.

Though I still have my doubts I guess. You are right, it is pretty hard to imagine.

[Ghandi]

You'd think that a journalist would provide actual data to clarify the statement. But that's hardly sensationalist. It's best to keep the reader guessing.

[Pugnate]

You'd think that a journalist would provide actual data to clarify the statement. But that's hardly sensationalist. It's best to keep the reader guessing.

There is nothing wrong with your statement, except you seem to assume that actual journalists in this industry exist.

[MysterD]

There is nothing wrong with your statement, except you seem to assume that actual journalists in this industry exist.

I'm sure there's gotta' be a FEW in this world, Pug.

I still miss the old Kasavin, Ocampo, Gerstmann, and Shoemaker days of GameSpot, dammit.

[W7RE]

I finally started messing around with the multiplayer some more. I wish the matchmaking worked better. From rank 8 to 13 I saw one person below 30, and he was 15. Usually most of the game is populated by people level 40-60 with a few around 70. Shouldn't I be matched with people level 1-20 or so?

Maybe it ignores levels when matchmaking and just focuses on latency.

[Ghandi]

It was the same with MW1.

Generally, though, I found that levels weren't a reflection of skill, just time played.

[W7RE]

It was the same with MW1.

Generally, though, I found that levels weren't a reflection of skill, just time played.

Yea, but I'm going in with almost no time played, up against people with lots of time played. =/
Game's only been out 2 weeks, I shouldn't be THAT far behind the curse.

[Ghandi]

Online fps games are all about learning the maps. After that it comes down to instincts - who can aim, who can move the quickest and assess the situation. And the majority is horribly inept when it comes to those things. Give it a few days and you will be fine.

[W7RE]

I played a bunch more and did a bit better. It helped a bit when I started playing a game type that didn't allow MW2 parties. People had more appropriate levels compared to mine, and I sort started kicking ass on some matches. The most suprising part was when we got on a sniper favored map and I said "shit, I guess I should make a sniper setup for when this comes up." So I grabbed the only sniper available to me, and a machine pistol. I went 20-5 or something like that.

The thing about parties is that you can invite your friends into an XBL party and then send a party wide invite to MW2. You could have a level 30, and 4 people 60+. Then you're in a pre-lobby and you choose game type for matchmaking and it not only puts you all in the same game, but on the same side too. So if you get in against lower level people, you have an experience advantage AND a cooperation advantage.

[MysterD]

SPOILERS included in this link.
Yahtzee on Modern Warfare 2.

EDIT:
Modern Warfare 2 has pushed the COD Franchise's revenues over $3 billion.

EDIT 2:
The 1Up Community weighs in on Modern Warfare 2 - on The Airport Level, Gameplay, and Lack of Dedicated Servers.

[W7RE]

I'm not sure what I find lamer, the fact that title/eblems like this exist in the game, or that 1/3 to 1/2 of the people I see in games are using them:




In addition to "Blunt Trauma", there's ones with the same graphic but the titles, "High Command" and "Joint Ops". I'm not even sure what drug references are doing in a military shooter. Every time one pops up though, I lose a little bit more respect for the gaming community.

[Quemaqua]

*sigh*

[Pugnate]

I lose more respect for the developers.

[idolminds]

As if you needed more proof that the series is now squarely aimed at the college "bro" crowd...

[iPPi]

I finally got some time to try this tonight.  It's pretty much exactly the same as the first.  From the first hour of the campaign, the only thing I can say that I do like better about the campaign is the lack of gauntlets.  I'll have to put more time in though to see if it's better or worse than the first game.

[W7RE]

By "gauntlet", you mean parts where you fight through a linear path with enemies shooting at you from every angle, who all respawn infinitely until you can reach a certain point on the map? Yea, just wait...

Though there is less of that than in the first.

[Pugnate]

When did people start calling that type of level design 'gauntlet'? I received no such memo!

[iPPi]

When did people start calling that type of level design 'gauntlet'? I received no such memo!

I think it started with MMOs.  I recall raiding in WoW and several sections were called 'gauntlets' because of infinite enemy respawns until you make it past a certain point.

[W7RE]

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