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Offline PyroMenace

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My shit got hacked
« on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 02:16:29 AM »
Gmail and paypal, fuck me. Some of you probably got spam from me but i don't think barely any did since i don't have many of you in my contact list. But my paypal had 4 transactions for 16$ each in Taiwan money. I've already made the claim on paypal that those transactions were unauthorized, should I contact my bank too? I looked at my balance and those withdrawals haven't happened yet. So yea, fucking hell, I'm going to change my email and shut down my paypal as soon as this is sorted out. 

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #1 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 02:25:53 AM »
That sucks dude, but yeah I would contact the bank as well, because Paypal is probably going to drag their ass with it.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #2 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 04:09:54 AM »
Gmail and paypal, fuck me. Some of you probably got spam from me but i don't think barely any did since i don't have many of you in my contact list. But my paypal had 4 transactions for 16$ each in Taiwan money. I've already made the claim on paypal that those transactions were unauthorized, should I contact my bank too? I looked at my balance and those withdrawals haven't happened yet. So yea, fucking hell, I'm going to change my email and shut down my paypal as soon as this is sorted out. 
How did they get in you think?  Keylogger on a computer you were using?

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #3 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 05:48:30 AM »
From his comment about gmail, it seems he was "phished".

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #4 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 06:12:39 AM »
Here's what gmail caught, so the first login was 2 days ago on the 8th. I'll look at my old emails.


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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #5 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 07:25:35 AM »
How'd the get into paypal?

Did you enter your password on page through a link on your e-mail?

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #6 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 07:37:57 AM »
Both my email and paypal have the same password, doh!

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #7 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 08:17:53 AM »
Both my email and paypal have the same password, doh!

That's one thing I've learned from these horror stories. My e-mail password is completely different from all of my other ones. It's the common link between me and most of my other accounts, can't have one compromise the rest.

That's pretty shitty though. It's a good thing you caught it after only $64 of transactions. No amount is a small amount to get stolen but this could easily have been much worse.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #8 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 11:34:39 AM »
Both my email and paypal have the same password, doh!

But how do you think they got to that? Was it phishing? Did you get a fake paypal e-mail that had you enter your password on a link?

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #9 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 03:41:10 PM »
It could be anything, you'll rack your brain trying to guess. Just make sure all of your security stuff is up to date and do a sweep of your comp for any trojans and other unwanted stuff.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #10 on: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 10:04:11 PM »
Some nefarious porn site is probably to blame.

Did you make any headway on the money situation?

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #11 on: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 12:44:27 AM »
Lesson for everyone, whether you use paypal, ebay, e-mail, or some banking services.

If you get a piece of e-mail that asks you to access your account through a link on that very e-mail, it is a trick. That link is just collecting information so they can get your login info.

You can forward such e-mails to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com

If in doubt, just open the website in a browser by entering the address on your own, but never NEVER use the link.

Yes, some of this shit is very convincing. I have been fooled a few times myself. They sometimes even show your name etc to get to you. I was really lucky. After I entered my info on the phishing site, I noticed that while the website looked 100% legit, the address was just a bunch of numbers.

I quickly contacted the concerned authorities and changed all my login info, almost immediately.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #12 on: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 01:25:23 AM »
I still can't figure out what I did... like Nicklone said I am racking my brain over it, and the fact that I dont know scares me a whole lot more. I didn't get any spoof emails and even if I did I can almost always recognize them. The only thing I can think of was that my password to my email isn't very strong and it was breached by some bot, my password was 10 letters and no numbers, thats the only thing I can think of.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #13 on: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 03:11:18 AM »
Shit, that is scary.

Offline gpw11

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #14 on: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 05:43:48 AM »
Shit, that's sucks man....you were really hesitant to sign on with paypal as well.


Reading this kind of makes me want to change all my passwords, but passwords are so complicated nowadays anyways....I probably have six and have no idea which is for which.


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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #15 on: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 08:30:24 AM »
I use the same password for almost everything.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #16 on: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:13:10 AM »
Damn, that sucks man. And like scott, I use the same password for everything. Well...not quite. I have 3 or 4 passwords I use for stuff. My "important" sites like gmail get unique passwords generated with KeePass. I dont even know what my gmail password is and Im cant access it unless I can get a copy of keepass on a computer. Kind of inconvenient, but I rarely use gmail when Im not on my own computer.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 05:10:32 AM »
fuck

So I changed my password for paypal after reading this and suddenly my paypal has been locked. It really sucks because it is what I use for my business.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 06:12:38 AM »
That actually happened to me after I changed it, but I just thought it did that because it suspected my account was accessed from a third party.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 06:19:11 AM »
It asked to enter the bank account number for verification but it kept rejecting it. Bullcrap. I tried the same 100% correct account number in various combinations until it locked the account completely. I called them and they are talking about the need to fax them hard documents etc.

WTF IS THIS SHIT!

A case of the horse has bolted, really.

You don't change your password, it gets hacked and you are fucked. You change it for security, and paypal fucks you because they think you are some hacker.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 07:07:35 AM »
Jeeze. So I called them and they told me that the bank info I was giving wasn't the one they had on file.

They are asking for an older bank's info, a bank I have stopped using and have lost all information of and removed from paypal. This is really fucked.

edit:

30 minutes of getting dicked around and nothing to show for it. God I hate paypal.
« Last Edit: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 07:42:35 AM by Pugnate »

Offline Cobra951

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 07:42:53 AM »
I keep hearing horror stories about Paypal.  I read recently about someone who had some money taken by Paypal from their bank account in error, and he's still fighting it over a year later.  WTF?  Is this outfit the only game in town for online business?

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 08:57:21 AM »
Unfortunately there is no other. My account was restored, and I understand the concerns... but really come on.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 08:59:36 AM »
Ah.  Good news.  Cool.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 10:23:12 AM »
Yea, took about 2 hours of calling etc.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 02:38:43 PM »
So is this why you're not on facebook any more?

Offline PyroMenace

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #26 on: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 04:05:55 AM »
Yea, it just made me feel too vulnerable so I took it down. Not like I used it much anyway. Plus the people I care to keep tabs with are mostly here.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #27 on: Friday, July 16, 2010, 12:45:50 AM »
All really interesting, I must say.

I think in due time, probably YEARS down the road, we won't see probably much software sold in-store. We'll all be basically buying "licenses" to buy our software directly from an online distribution service - especially as Internet connections get faster.

I see this b/c I, probably among many others, just tend to be purchasing WAY more ("licenses") to download from (especially) Steam, Impulse, GOG, Direct2Drive, etc. Just local retailers around my way ain't carrying PC games like they used to; and/or their sales ain't NOWHERE as good as the digital distributors are. Places like Gogamer (where you buy hard copies on disc from) - which I often bought religiously from in the past, I ain't bought very much from like I used to recently. I'm starting to suddenly buy more from Amazon than Gogamer, even - since they seem to be pumping out the good deals even for NEWER games.

Also w/ many more games now requiring Steam even if you buy the retail version, it's also gotten to the point - if the HD space requirement ain't ridiculous, why should I buy the disc version? Hard copies often nowadays slack on the manual-size and/or extra goodies included in the retail box - especially if it's a Valve-made game. Fallout: New Vegas - Collector's Edition might be one of the few Steam-required games I'd be interested in buying a retail box for sometime down the line b/c of all the extra stuff it packs.

Personally, my take on game licensing/owning - The Single Player component is yours. I should not have to be online to worry about this - Ubisoft, I'm looking at you here. It's called SP for a reason - so I can play this ALONE. Also, modders should be able to modify, improve, or do what the hell you want to it - nobody should care here b/c you ain't effecting other players - you only have yourself to worry about. DRM limitations and crap shouldn't even be involved w/ SP, honestly. If it's bought on disc, disc-check for SP portion should be enuff. When the game's old and cheap, no point in having DRM - b/c DRM's meant to protect the game when the price of the game is quite HIGH.

When MMO is thrown into the mix, things get kinda muddy here on if a game is yours or not - b/c that is a service and you're normally paying a fee or buying more content to keep on playing w/ lots of others online. And, yes - you're not doing LAN, you're playing on a company's servers to handle tons of players. Though, I do believe if say a MMO does go down and pull the plug - like say Tabula Rasa or Guild Wars, it would be nice if the designers/publisher did come up w/ a way to make all the assets work offline - even if they charge you some small fee for this special patch - so people can go solo with it; especially if the game's built w/ AI bots that can run around and be there in the place of basically other MP players. Or Hell, why not sell a patch to add LAN support to the plug-pulled MMO so gamers who love the game can round up some friends and keep it going?

About MP, as long as there's a built-in LAN option, hey, that part of game's also yours - b/c the designers obviously built the game that if they go out of business and don't have servers, it's up to you to get other players going to play w/ you online. You just have to worry about if you can get other players playing the game - especially if it's OLD.

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Re: My shit got hacked
« Reply #28 on: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 04:47:45 AM »
Man, and I thought one of m3 on th3se boards was 3nuff....