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Chicks man,
« on: Friday, July 06, 2012, 09:48:32 PM »
They can be a bitch

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #1 on: Friday, July 06, 2012, 10:11:52 PM »
Chicken man?

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #2 on: Friday, July 06, 2012, 10:45:35 PM »
mmmm...chicken.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #3 on: Friday, July 06, 2012, 11:19:47 PM »
I'm trying to finally wrap up a prior relationship I was in.  It got messy.  And I'm desperately trying to not jump into something new.  Not chasing tail is lonely, but my life is drama free.  And I have so much god damn free time.
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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #4 on: Saturday, July 07, 2012, 05:10:01 AM »
Like anything else, free time gets old.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #5 on: Saturday, July 07, 2012, 05:17:55 AM »
When you're a kid you have time and energy but no money. As an adult you have money and energy but no time. When you're old you have time and money but no energy.

Such is the whimsical, ironic way of life.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #6 on: Saturday, July 07, 2012, 06:22:48 AM »
That's brilliant Xessive.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #7 on: Saturday, July 07, 2012, 07:10:37 AM »
That's brilliant Xessive.
Thanks, but I can't take credit for it :) it's something my uncle told me when I was younger. I finally understand it now! hehe

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #8 on: Saturday, July 07, 2012, 07:57:51 AM »
Like anything else, free time gets old.

Oh yeah.  If history is any indication, this phase will last a couple of weeks.  But it is a nice change for the time being.
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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #9 on: Saturday, July 07, 2012, 11:23:54 AM »
I have no free time, money, or energy.  What the fuck did I do wrong??

So, I was dating this American chick for maybe the last three months.  She lives probably about an hour away, which, as far as I'm concerned, is the perfect distance. I totally didn't want to find this chick amazing, because I was still rolling on my self-imposed sabbatical, but I guess I did. She was hot and hillarious, and a pretty legitimate person. I'd roll down on a weekend, spend the night, roll back up the next day and we'd literally talk every day.  It was coo. Also, we never fully slept together.  This is probably the reason for the hangup (I know myself)

So, I cancelled some cabin plans last weekend in order to go down and see her, and she in turns cancels our plans together because of some "male drama".  I'm not a self-conscious or dramatic person, and shit happens, so I didn't pry.  It goes on for a few more days and eventually I broach the subject and it turns out some dude she works with (in a salon??) that she was seeing for a year but he'd never commit (seriously, a fucking salon?) , also wouldn't let her move on (I can't even think of a job a dude should be doing in a salon.  They don't cut hair - I asked), and he was all verbally abusive and giving her a hard time.  Now, from prior experience I'd cut and run the second I hear of an ex who wouldn't commit unless I was just sleeping with the chick, but without me asking this girl put forth that she "really really really likes me and really wants to hang out as soon as all this is over".  That, plus the verbally abusive comment (salon dudes be uppity?) lead me to believe she's just having a rough go of it, and I'll wait around.

So, we're still talking for the next week, playing words with friends and whatever, but she's not really there.  You know, when all of a sudden you start worrying if you're texting too much or if the other person is really in or not.  So, I took drastic measures:  I put the question out to the harem of women that I've previously dated, slept with, or had a semi-relationship with and still talk to and let them make the call.  Stay or go. The answer was unanimous - get the fuck out.

So, boom. The next day (thursday), I told her whats up and that I'm sorry I can't really be there for her, but it's hard on myself and when she sorts her stuff out either way to let me know and we can go from there.  She came back telling me she's sorted - other dude is gone.  I'm all "Great, how about I roll down Saturday and we do a fun cross-border date".  And then she tells me she doesn't feel like she's in the head space to date, but it'd be great if we could still talk until she sorts herself out emotionally. So, I obviously told her that nothing has changed on my end.  Its hard for me to talk to her while I'm invested in her, I'm not a guy that has any problem being alone, but realistically, the easiest way to get over her is to just casually date other chicks and I'm not going to be able to do that without feeling disingenuous to any of them as long as I'm still invested in her, so it's cyclical and this is the the only way.  There's a 99% probably that I'm not going to actually be involved in anything serious with anyone else so she should totally let me know if she gets in a better headspace in the meantime. 

I think that's perfectly honest and reasonable. And yet, I'm left feeling like a total asshole and still pretty sad about the whole thing.  WHAT THE FUCK? 

Also, 14 hours later and I have three dates lined up. I'm a stone cold pimp.

Finally, if you ever end up with waist herpes, just tell chicks about it right away.  I'm amazed, but I haven't had a single one care yet. Actually, one did, but that was a totally different issue.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #10 on: Saturday, July 07, 2012, 11:58:11 AM »
Instead of chilling and give your chick time to deal with her problems you bailed the minute there was drama (that didn't even involve you) and stopped getting the attention you thought you deserved in return. To make you feel better and justify this you asked your ex girlfriends for an opinion, and surprise, you got the exact answer you wanted.

Then you brag how you have 3 dates already lined up after saying you can be "alone" instead of stepping it up and actually being there for her.

Nope you don't sound like an asshole at all!



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Re: Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #11 on: Saturday, July 07, 2012, 02:59:06 PM »
Ahahahaha.  Those are excellent points.  I may have misrepresented myself a bit there, but I'm not even going to try to clear it up or defend myself .... Because that was an amazingly eye opening post.  See, this is why I post things like this.

Honestly, thanks.  Also, I'm apparently a douchebag when things don't go my way.  I may have made some huge mistakes.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #12 on: Sunday, July 08, 2012, 12:01:16 AM »
I still love you.









no, i don't
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Re: Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #13 on: Sunday, July 08, 2012, 01:08:51 AM »
Ahahahaha.  Those are excellent points.  I may have misrepresented myself a bit there, but I'm not even going to try to clear it up or defend myself .... Because that was an amazingly eye opening post.  See, this is why I post things like this.

Honestly, thanks.  Also, I'm apparently a douchebag when things don't go my way.  I may have made some huge mistakes.
Nothing a change in perspective can't fix.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #14 on: Sunday, July 08, 2012, 07:41:58 AM »
Ehhh I would have bailed too.  If there is drama like that in the very beginning, you can be certain there will be drama throughout.  You learned something about her early on that you normally don't learn until further into the relationship.  It was something that wouldn't make you happy in the relationship.  You got out before you would have been able to otherwise.  I chalk it up as a win.

Maybe I'm an asshole too.
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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #15 on: Sunday, July 08, 2012, 11:17:58 PM »
Ehhh I would have bailed too.  If there is drama like that in the very beginning, you can be certain there will be drama throughout.  You learned something about her early on that you normally don't learn until further into the relationship.  It was something that wouldn't make you happy in the relationship.  You got out before you would have been able to otherwise.  I chalk it up as a win.

Maybe I'm an asshole too.

Yeah, that's how I was justifying it.  But, to be fair, there wasn't drama between us exactly and she was really honest in how she went about dealing with it. I probably felt more invested than I was, but where I most likely fucked up the most was pretending that everything was fine instead of just saying how I felt about it at the time, or asked a "should I be worried" and gone with a "sorry, that's going to be difficult for me.  Let me know when's it done" rather than letting it build up until it actually became a problem.

In either case, Cools does have a point.  I don't think not wanting to be a part of the situation is an asshole thing to do this early in, but if I actually like the chick, I should be able to be there for her. So, that said, I texted her and told her I was fine with it, we'll see where things go.  She seemed happy about that, and we talked for a bit. Realistically, I'd predict this no longer going anywhere, possibly because this was a factor, possibly because it would have happened anyway with whatever was going on.  I'd hope that it does go somewhere, but I wouldn't count on it.  Prediction - no longer talking three weeks from now just because things slowly cool down. Someone probably breaks silence 6 months to a year from now.  Maybe friends.

In my defence, I'd just like to point out that I didn't walk on the chick initially at the first sign on trouble,  I walked when things went from "I really really like you and want to go back to hanging out to as soon as this is all over" to "I don't think I should be seeing anyone right now".  And I didn't do so out of spite or because I thought it would get her to figure her shit out in my favor (almost every girl thought this was the case).  I did it because I felt it'd be the best thing for me.   No shame in that.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #16 on: Monday, July 16, 2012, 11:05:27 PM »
Ehhh I would have bailed too.  If there is drama like that in the very beginning, you can be certain there will be drama throughout.  You learned something about her early on that you normally don't learn until further into the relationship.  It was something that wouldn't make you happy in the relationship.  You got out before you would have been able to otherwise.  I chalk it up as a win.

Maybe I'm an asshole too.

So, the votes have been tallied up and Shock was correct - the proper answer would have been to bail.  The chick kinda turned out to be a huge bitch.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #17 on: Monday, July 16, 2012, 11:13:23 PM »
Haha, what happened?

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #18 on: Monday, July 16, 2012, 11:20:32 PM »
It is the journey that matters, young one. First you must learn that she is a huge bitch, then you may bail.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #19 on: Monday, July 16, 2012, 11:35:29 PM »
I win!  Yay!!
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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 12:25:19 AM »
Haha, what happened?

Absolutely nothing worthwhile. I'd love to come out of it with an awesome story, but there totally isn't one. She just got really lame.  I diplomatically brought it up, worrying that something might be seriously wrong for her, and she went into how she's kind of depressed or something. So, I did a bunch of retarded nice things to cheer her up.  Stupid shit like this.  It's lame and there are in-jokes in there.  But I literally sent her that she didn't respond for, like two days. See, what the fuck is that? And no, this isn't "not getting the attention I deserved", this is someone doing nice shit for you and you don't acknowledge it. I don't want a blowjob here, just fucking say something. So, when she did finally make contact, two days later, and was just like "What's up? lol?"  I wrote a diplomatic message saying that I was kind of going out of my way to make things easier for her, and that's cool - I knew what I was doing, but I couldn't really do it anymore. If she ever needed to talk or anything, let me know.

I'm the opposite of a high maintenance guy. I was probably partially into this girl because she lived the perfect distance away, but for whatever reason this girl just shutting down started to spread to me.  She wasn't fun anymore and eventually, it just started draining the fun out of me. Honestly, my only real regret here is not walking sooner.


Yes, and not responding to that and/or other gestures kind of makes you a bitch.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 02:08:10 AM »
It just sounds like she needed some space bro. She had just gotten out of a relationship where the guy was a real dick. She may have pulled away from you or she may have drawn to you but it sounds like she just needed time.

That is pretty funny. I'd go out with you if you sent me that. :P

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 02:56:58 AM »
Awesome story < Awesome flowchart

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 07:01:38 AM »
It just sounds like she needed some space bro. She had just gotten out of a relationship where the guy was a real dick. She may have pulled away from you or she may have drawn to you but it sounds like she just needed time.

That is pretty funny. I'd go out with you if you sent me that. :P

Of course you would.  Who wouldn't?  But yeah, totally just a case of her needing some space.  I'm not talking it personally at all, it just is what it is.

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Re: Re: Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 07:20:03 AM »
I'm not talking it personally at all, it just is what it is.

Well you did call her a huge bitch.

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 10:58:09 AM »
Well you did call her a huge bitch.

Hahahaha. Fair enough, but I'd say one could still act like a bitch without the other taking it personally.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 11:40:56 AM »
Haha.

Well to be honest, few things will cheer up a person who's depressed. :(

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 10:57:03 PM »
Oh, I'm sure. Realistically, I probably fucked it up more than anything by trying to do the right thing and get what I want at the same time, which is a pretty hard thing to pull off in cases like this.  If I wanted to get what I want, it most likely would have been best to tell her to figure her shit out right off the back and walk.  But, to do the right thing would be to actually help someone out through something.  Trying to do both is kinda fucked, and it doesn't really work out when the dynamic totally changes.  I'd have no problem hanging on, even if the girl decided against seeing me, assuming the dynamic didn't change drastically. But when it goes from talking all the time with jokes and shit to me joking, her maybe responding a day later/maybe not, and just generally not being the same at all, what's the point?

Space wasn't really the issue, or at least she said it wasn't.  And the problem here wasn't that I wasn't going to to be hitting that, it was that this really fun girl all of a sudden turned negative fun.  I'm a firm believer in not burning bridges and maintaining friendships with people you've dated - it's far more beneficial than detrimental in most cases, but with this chick, it was pretty much impossible.  And maybe it's the result of an actual problem with depression, which would be a terrible shame, but at the end of the day it was getting toxic to me so what can I do?

As for the bitch comment, strictly speaking, I did a few really nice things for this girl and got nothing back. I get that she was going through something, and I think I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but when I say I got nothing back, I mean nothing.  No "thanks", no "that was funny/hillarious/awesome", literally nothing.  It's like cooking for someone, them eating it and then going out for the night without saying a word.  Not the biggest deal in the world, but what the fuck?  Did you just roll by for the free food?  It basically either means she just wanted nothing to do to me but wanted to keep in contact for some strange reason, she just all of a sudden wanted nothing to do to me and didn't know how to say it although was given multiple opportunities to say so, or its a character flaw.

I have no doubt I'll talk to this girl again one day, and everything may be fine, but she is literally toxic to me right now and the whole situation was incredibly weird.  I certainly lost some face in the ordeal, at least in her eyes, by being too open - but you kinda have to be real.  There is no doubt in my mind that I would have fared better ultimately if I was more self serving, but there's confidence and there's false confidence - and playing a game of not giving a shit when you actually do only points to the latter.  But beyond all else, I haven't known the chick for years and have no idea which is her natural state - the fun one or the current one.  She could very well be bipolar, as there are some tells there.  Or she could just not be open at all and just think I'm a creep.  There's also the fact that false "nice guys" who are girl's best friends but are totally into them are also my lifetime enemies and something I'm horribly terrified of ever becoming.  And that actually played a large part.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 11:58:45 PM »


According to the Crazy Vs. Hotness scale, the hotter she is the more crazy we're willing to put up with.

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Re: Chicks man,
« Reply #29 on: Friday, July 20, 2012, 06:04:31 AM »
Cool - I guess all of my girlfriends have been super hot.
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