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Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« on: Saturday, September 01, 2012, 06:02:36 PM »
Frightening stuff... It will happen at some point. What to do is the question..

http://am.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/physicist-michio-kaku-on-super-volcano-all-you-can-do-is-run/

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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #1 on: Saturday, September 01, 2012, 06:23:47 PM »
Well...nothing you really can do. It'll blow, just gotta go on from there.

If you live.

On one hand....cool! On the other hand....uh, extinction.

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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #2 on: Saturday, September 01, 2012, 06:30:26 PM »
I feel like this could be a good thing for the US in the long run.

天才的な閃きと平均以下のテクニックやな。 課長有野

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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #3 on: Saturday, September 01, 2012, 07:32:00 PM »
Funny that they had him and not a geologist who actually studies Yellowstone. I guess he's one of the science-faces in America but there are a dozens of people out there who have more or less spent their careers studying volcanism in Yellowstone who could have interesting insights.

In any case, what was never mentioned here is that Yellowstone isn't a typical volcano but a hotspot. Usually volcanoes are associated with tectonic plate boundaries and are effectively fed through the recycling process of subducting crust. Hotspots, on the other hand, are fed from magmas coming up from much deeper in the Earth (there are some thoughts this this could be coming up from just above the core itself) and their position stable. So while the plates move around you have volcanoes that will form a chain over time. Because of the source of magma and nature of hotspots, they're usually more associated with volcanoes that pour out tons of lava rather than huge explosions. That can be just as bad or worse that a huge explosion depending on how you look at things. There's evidences that there were periods of a couple of millions of years where the Yellowstone Hotspot released enough magma to change the atmosphere enough to cause extinction events. You could still have a huge explosion (or dozens) followed by a large outpouring of lava though.

Hotspots are old and stable features and I think the Yellowstone Hotspot has lavas in western Canada going back about 60-70 million years. They're also pretty regular with their eruptions. That's the sticking point though. When we say something happens regularly the plus or minus on the intervals is thousands of years, especially for something like big hotspot eruption through a continent. We could literally have hundreds of years of major signs before a volcano the size of which they talk about goes off. Of course, then the trick is recognizing those signs for what they are really worth and we really don't have any first hand experience with these things as a conscience species.

We've also known that this could happen for a long time now. Evidence of trouble brewing is why Yellowstone is famous (what do you think causes all those geysers?) Odds are, anything big enough to truly change the face of North America will have a fairly long (in human terms) and dramatic buildup. Of course, the flipside is that geologists might be deluding themselves and these things happen a lot faster than we think. Still, we get fairly decent warnings with "small" volcanoes that we see every few years. If things scale linearly we should have at least a few years if not decades leading to this sort of eruption.*

* Funny thought. If that's the case you'll get all sorts of doubters who can't comprehend anything that happens on timescales slower than a week. Because of that nothing will happen and then the disaster might as well happen immediately. Yay stupid people.
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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #4 on: Saturday, September 01, 2012, 07:49:32 PM »
Cool stuff. Yellowstone blowing up was the best part of 2012. :P

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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, September 05, 2012, 08:44:45 AM »
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It was a similar volcano that helped bring an end to the dinosaurs

I hear the exact same thing every time I hear about a big ass asteroid flying near the Earth. These guys need to get together and get their stories straight.

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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, September 05, 2012, 09:13:51 AM »
There isn't a straight story. Remember we're looking back 65 million years. There is evidence for both within the same time period and there are models that support either or a combination of the two tweaking climate enough to bring down the dinosaurs.

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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, September 05, 2012, 12:03:49 PM »
Randy Savage didn't die, he went back in time to wipe out the dinosaurs so humanity could evolve.

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!

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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, September 05, 2012, 12:35:39 PM »
Actually, what we aren't supposed to tell you is that Tupac was sent back to do the job but they found his fossil inside the stomach area of a T-Rex (he had durable markers affixed to his bone for identification in the current time). So Randy Savage was to actually finish the job. Evidence of his demise has not been found yet.

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Re: Creeeeeepy... Yellowstone eruption
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, September 05, 2012, 01:03:15 PM »
Sounds like the plot for a Back to the Future remake.